I agree. The lack of a web interface on Apple routers is incredibly annoying. I don't care if their tool is easier to use... that doesn't help if you don't have it, and there's no reason that a web GUI needs to be complicated... if they would just stop trying to make them overly helpful.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Yes, and thank you. My least favorite customer router for this reason. > I've also had a couple situations where they don't take config changes > unless you do a factory reset - pretty annoying as well. > > > On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> My guys hate the Apple routers because they can’t be configured from a >> web GUI, you need the AirPort software on your computer. At least that’s >> what they tell me. >> >> >> *From:* Brett A Mansfield >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:08 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >> >> For my customers that want me to sell them or manage their solution I >> charge an extra $25 install fee and $5/mo. I use edgerouters as the router >> and an airport express in bridge mode for the wireless. I can throw on as >> many of the airports as needed to get the job done for an extra fee. >> >> It works really well. I haven't had any customer complaint with it. They >> don't have to power cycle anything ever either. >> >> I buy the airport express in bulk refurbished direct from Apple. If they >> don't have them refurbished I just buy new, but that hasn't happened yet. >> >> Thank you, >> Brett A Mansfield >> >> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> >> wrote: >> >> This is my biggest gripe right now. >> >> >> >> The more internet you provide to them, the worse this problem is. >> >> >> >> I think my contractors are selling mid-range $100 linksys routers. >> >> I’m not sure that’s the best thing. >> >> >> >> I too need to find a handful of routers that really get the job done >> right. >> >> >> >> I’ve noticed the Apple routers tend to be pretty good, especially if they >> have Apple Ecosystem/devices. >> >> And apple extenders seem to work better with their apple environment and >> are way easy for the customer to set up. >> >> >> >> Other than Apple, I usually recommend a router with external antennas. >> >> And TRY to get our people to NOT install the routers in the basement >> under all the metal ducting, lol! >> >> >> >> Ideally they are installed on the main floor in a somewhat central >> location. >> >> >> >> What I am considering is selling a NON-wireless router for our end point >> inside the house near the clustered wiring. >> >> Then programming any router they get in BRIDGE mode. >> >> >> >> I still don’t like doing that because the router features are something >> most of these people want anyways. >> >> >> >> But with my speeds I would almost just rather make sure they have a wired >> Gigabit Ethernet router that I can manage and I know is capable, then let >> them buy however many wireless routers they need to fill in gaps all over >> their house (or, preferably, ONE powerful wireless router). >> >> >> >> I just don’t want to be stuck changing port forwarding crap etc. >> >> >> >> What I really wish was that a separate company would do this for a one >> time, or monthly charge and handle all their router woes. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2015 11:39 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >> >> >> >> Thanks for the input guys. >> >> I was mostly looking at what to recommend. I'd rather help on occasion, >> but my responsibility ends at the CAT5 coming out of the POE. >> >> I've been bouncing around the idea of a $5 a month managed RB951 2HnD or >> something. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Justin Wilson - MTIN >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:51 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >> >> >> >> My take on this is you have to look at what supporting a customer router >> costs you in support and service calls. We have several clients who are >> doing one of a couple things. >> >> >> >> Some are selling a managed router service for $X a month. This is >> typically a Mikrotik the ISP has access to. The ISP sets up the wireless, >> manages the router, and other such functions. This allows for a reference >> point on the customer side for testing, etc. >> >> >> >> The other way to approach this is if you don’t want mess with router >> configuration some folks are including a “modem” that is essentially a hAP >> or 750. This is just in bridge mode or is the PPPOE client. The customer >> then is free to plug in their own router if they so desire, but you still >> have a reference point from the customer side. If you need a customer to >> bypass their router you simply ask them to plug into port5 or whatever on >> your “modem”. That port can be setup to do DHCP or whatever. >> >> >> >> You have to look at how much support consumer routers is costing you. >> Many folks look at the cost of the routers and the cost to install them or >> replace them. But if it cuts your support calls by 30% that might mean the >> difference between hiring another person, or other “soft” costs. >> >> >> >> >> >> Justin Wilson >> >> j...@mtin.net >> >> >> >> --- >> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO >> >> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth >> >> http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman >> >> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days? >> >> I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality >> seems to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block >> specific outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc... >> >> >> >>
