Did anyone see Saturday night live tonight? Funny parody of the NRA commercials.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 11:03 PM Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > Statistically, you're more likely to be killed by a drunk or distracted > driver than someone with a gun. > > Mathew Howard wrote: > > Oh, I agree... the world would be better if we could get rid of bad > > drivers. I have to agree with what Patrick said, cops should focus > > more on ticketing bad drivers, and not so much on randomly giving out > > tickets on highways where everyone (including cops...) speeds. > > > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net > > <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>> wrote: > > > > I dunno... > > > > I think the world would be a better place if bad drivers weren't > > allowed to drive. They need to retest or something every decade or > > so, maybe just once they get more than one violation. I don't > > know, but too many people drive like idiots just to get to the red > > light one second faster than the next guy. Maybe they just all > > need to get off their butts and build a race car, get it out of > > their system. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > > *To:* af <mailto:af@afmug.com> > > *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:54 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings > > > > Yes... realistically, the same standards wouldn't work here. > > If we had the same requirements to be able to drive, half the > > population wouldn't have any way to get to work (or wherever > > it is they need to go) everyday. Thousands of lives would be > > saved every year from the reduction in traffic deaths, but I'm > > pretty sure there would be very, very little support from > > anyone for changing our driving standards to something similar > > to what Germany has. > > > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Patrick Leary > > <patrick.le...@telrad.com <mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>> > > wrote: > > > > I lived in Germany. There, people pay good money to earn > > the privilege to drive. You must be 18 and it costs well > > over a grand. As a result, German drivers are predictable. > > You’ll never see a German driver passing on the right. > > You’ll never see a German driver holding up traffic in a > > left or even middle lane. You won’t see a German change > > lanes without using their indicator. And of course, > > Germans respect that government has a job and is not the > > enemy, so they don’t reject taxation for infrastructure. > > As a result, Germany has MUCH better roads than we do. > > Seriously. The German autobahn is twice as thick and > > better banked. To be fair, we have thousands of miles more > > of Interstate, so we do have a harder job. Still. Also, > > you can’t drive a jalopy in Germany, which has strict > > inspection rules, that even include aesthetics, but the > > emphasis is on safe functioning. > > > > We can’t realistically have the same regime though, we > > have much larger distances and lots of backroads and farms > > and country roads. I think we don’t need the same standard > > of road, but we do need roads that are well-maintained, > > and we need much better driving skills. Our cops should > > focus less on cherry-picking speed traps (many areas here > > in FL are nationally famous for bullshit speed traps – > > e.g. Waldo, FL) and more on ticketing bad drivers. > > > > Driver etiquette is the real differentiator between the > > U.S. and Germany. A German won’t say, “I’m driving the > > speed limit so screw you, go around.” Germans, like other > > Europeans, understand they have a civic responsibility. > > Too many Americans reject civic responsibility as being > > “against freedom” and “un-American.” The closest parallel > > in the U.S. to how the Germans behave is the Mormon > > population, which places a very high premium on civic > > responsibility, public dignity, decency, the idea of body > > politic as one functioning unit. The concept of the Hive > > (ergo, Chuck’s Beehive). > > > > -Patrick > > > > *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > > *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:32 PM > > *To:* af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings > > > > What's right for one country, isn't necessarily right for > > another. While I would love to be able to drive as fast I > > think is safe, knowing how the typical American drives, > > I'd guess that it would be far more deadly here than in > > Germany. I suspect the same logic applies to other stuff > > to some extent. > > > > On Oct 10, 2015 11:05 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" > > <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote: > > > > Countrys with weak gun control have more shot people. > > Simple logic in my eyes. > > > > Nothing to say against if the majority of a country > > takes this into account. Just strange in > > > > the eyes of a foreign citizen. > > > > In my country you can buy a BMW and drive as fast as > > you think it is ok on highways. > > > > this kills, too. Same arguments here. It is the > > freedom to drive. > > > > *Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > > <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *Im Auftrag von *Mike > > Hammett > > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 10. Oktober 2015 16:47 > > *An:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > > *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings > > > > Except that most mass shootings are done with weapons > > that were obtained in circumstances that even the most > > strict of control laws would allow. The weapons > > painted as being so evil just plain aren't used in > > these situations. > > > > Logic doesn't lead you to gun control. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > > <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> > > *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > > *Sent: *Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:12:08 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings > > > > I carry a .380 pistol with me most of the time but I > > only own three guns myself. I also consider myself to > > have many Democratic views when it comes to gun policy > > and Republican views with taxes & business aspects. > > > > I personally think it should be MUCH harder to > > purchase a firearm than it is. When I purchased my new > > glock, I ordered it online at Gander Mountain and > > walked into the store, they did a quick background > > check and I walked out in 10 minutes. It was great to > > me as a consumer and easy. BUT, what if I was angry or > > in the heat of the moment and wanted to harm people. > > Now that easy gun purchase allowed me to walk out the > > same day with a deadly weapon. > > > > I do not think our government is trying to take guns > > away as the crazy Republicans like to lie about. I do > > think we should have much stricter gun control though > > to keep the nutty people from having easy access. All > > that is going to do is make it take longer to purchase > > a legal firearm, which I am perfectly fine with if it > > prevents even one shooting death or mass shooting. > > > > If there's other policies being proposed that can help > > limit access to guns, I'm all for it if it still > > allows me to purchase a pistol to carry legally and a > > shotgun to go hunting. I don't believe I should be > > allowed to own a machine gun type weapon for use at my > > home. Weapons like that should be allowed only at > > shooting ranges and locked up under heavy security. > > They do not belong at a residential home anywhere for > > sport or home protection. > > > > So anyway, I think there are gun nuts out there that > > like to walk around while open carrying and say Obama > > is trying to steal all our guns. I think they're crazy > > and need a bonk on the head to come to your senses. > > Try acting normal and conceal your weapon, don't talk > > like a crazy gun nut and try to realize you don't need > > a machine gun. > > > > The government's job is to protect as many citizens as > > possible. That means more laws, more enforcement, and > > more compliance. We can't easily identify and stop all > > people who will commit a shooting crime. We can more > > easily target guns themselves and prevent the sale of > > them to as many "bad" people as possible. For "good" > > and legal people who want to buy one, stop complaining > > about gun control and embrace it in order to help save > > lives. Gun control isn't meant for good people, only > > the bad people. You'll still be able to buy any weapon > > you "need" in order to hunt or protect your home. > > > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Gino Villarini > > <ginovi...@gmail.com <mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > Freedom is not the exercise to choose whatever you > > want. Heck then free all the child molesters! > > Human beings need to be controlled, that the whole > > reasoning behind laws. Im with Jaime and Stefan on > > this. > > > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Mike Hammett > > <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > > > There are many items that kill more humans > > than first world guns. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net > > <mailto:s...@genias.net>> > > *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > > *Sent: *Friday, October 9, 2015 11:21:43 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings > > > > Looking at this with a foreign view I can't > > understand this "gun love" in US. It is not > > all about the criminals or idiots. Just look > > at the statistics for accidents with weapons. > > The only way to save lifes is to be very > > restrictive. If someone wants to shoot he can > > go to a shooting club and leave the weapon > > there. It is not freedom to have a gun at > > home. It is silly esp. with kids around. > > > > You can't avoid killing with banning weapons > > but you can reduce it. If I need a weapon I > > call for police or security. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Darin Steffl > > > > Minnesota WiFi > > > > www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> > > > > 507-634-WiFi > > > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on > > Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been > > scanned by > > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, > > vandals & computer viruses. > > > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been > > scanned by > > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, > > vandals & computer viruses. > > > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > >
