I read somewhere that the interstate highway system aka defense highway system 
has a 5000 foot straight stretch ever few miles with no overhead wires or 
overpasses to make it suitable for aircraft.  I think every 5 miles.  

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

I love it!

 

Although a nice history note is that the US Highway system was modeled after 
the Autobahn after Eisenhower returned from Germany in WW2

 

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/brainiacs/eisenhowerinterstate.cfm

 

Thank you,

 

Daniel White

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Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

Skype: danieldwhite
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

 

This is outrageous.  How can America compete in a world economy if Germans can 
get to their jobs and classes 3 times as fast as we can?  The government needs 
to develop a National Superhighway Plan, and measure and map advertised and 
actual speeds.  The USDOT needs to immediately raise the minimum speed from 40 
mph to 100 mph, and within 2 years to 250 mph.  We need to tax all drivers to 
create a fund to replace rural 2 lane roads with subsidized 6 lane 
superhighways.  We need car adoption programs to educate people who walk or 
ride bicycles.  We need USDOT to issue rules prohibiting toll roads, express 
lanes, HOV lanes, speed limits and speed bumps.

 

 

From: Daniel White 

Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 9:13 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

 

I’ve got a GoPro video from about 2 years ago of me driving on the Autobahn in 
a Mercedes S Class (what a beautiful car) going 250 km/h (155mph) and getting 
cut off by a lady in the left lane that wasn’t paying attention.  If I didn’t 
have such an excellent car that stopped on a dime, I’d probably be dead.

 

Many places in Europe, in my experience, have the same rules about driving as 
Germany.  They just don’t have an Autobahn to drive stupid fast (and I agree 
it’s an engineering marvel).

 

Thank you,

 

Daniel White

afmu...@gmail.com

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn: Twitter

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 3:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

 

I lived in Germany. There, people pay good money to earn the privilege to 
drive. You must be 18 and it costs well over a grand. As a result, German 
drivers are predictable. You’ll never see a German driver passing on the right. 
You’ll never see a German driver holding up traffic in a left or even middle 
lane. You won’t see a German change lanes without using their indicator. And of 
course, Germans respect that government has a job and is not the enemy, so they 
don’t reject taxation for infrastructure. As a result, Germany has MUCH better 
roads than we do. Seriously. The German autobahn is twice as thick and better 
banked. To be fair, we have thousands of miles more of Interstate, so we do 
have a harder job. Still. Also, you can’t drive a jalopy in Germany, which has 
strict inspection rules, that even include aesthetics, but the emphasis is on 
safe functioning. 

 

We can’t realistically have the same regime though, we have much larger 
distances and lots of backroads and farms and country roads. I think we don’t 
need the same standard of road, but we do need roads that are well-maintained, 
and we need much better driving skills. Our cops should focus less on 
cherry-picking speed traps (many areas here in FL are nationally famous for 
bullshit speed traps – e.g. Waldo, FL) and more on ticketing bad drivers.

 

Driver etiquette is the real differentiator between the U.S. and Germany. A 
German won’t say, “I’m driving the speed limit so screw you, go around.” 
Germans, like other Europeans, understand they have a civic responsibility. Too 
many Americans reject civic responsibility as being “against freedom” and 
“un-American.” The closest parallel in the U.S. to how the Germans behave is 
the Mormon population, which places a very high premium on civic 
responsibility, public dignity, decency, the idea of body politic as one 
functioning unit. The concept of the Hive (ergo, Chuck’s Beehive).

 

-          Patrick

 

On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:32 PM
To: af <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

 

What's right for one country, isn't necessarily right for another. While I 
would love to be able to drive as fast I think is safe, knowing how the typical 
American drives, I'd guess that it would be far more deadly here than in 
Germany. I suspect the same logic applies to other stuff to some extent. 

On Oct 10, 2015 11:05 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net> wrote:

  Countrys with weak gun control have more shot people. Simple logic in my eyes.

  Nothing to say against if the majority of a country takes this into account. 
Just strange in

  the eyes of a foreign citizen.

  In my country you can buy a BMW and drive as fast as you think it is ok on 
highways.

  this kills, too. Same arguments here. It is the freedom to drive. 

   

   

  Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett
  Gesendet: Samstag, 10. Oktober 2015 16:47
  An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

   

  Except that most mass shootings are done with weapons that were obtained in 
circumstances that even the most strict of control laws would allow. The 
weapons painted as being so evil just plain aren't used in these situations.

  Logic doesn't lead you to gun control.



  -----
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com

   


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  From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:12:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

  I carry a .380 pistol with me most of the time but I only own three guns 
myself. I also consider myself to have many Democratic views when it comes to 
gun policy and Republican views with taxes & business aspects.

   

  I personally think it should be MUCH harder to purchase a firearm than it is. 
When I purchased my new glock, I ordered it online at Gander Mountain and 
walked into the store, they did a quick background check and I walked out in 10 
minutes. It was great to me as a consumer and easy. BUT, what if I was angry or 
in the heat of the moment and wanted to harm people. Now that easy gun purchase 
allowed me to walk out the same day with a deadly weapon.

   

  I do not think our government is trying to take guns away as the crazy 
Republicans like to lie about. I do think we should have much stricter gun 
control though to keep the nutty people from having easy access. All that is 
going to do is make it take longer to purchase a legal firearm, which I am 
perfectly fine with if it prevents even one shooting death or mass shooting. 

   

  If there's other policies being proposed that can help limit access to guns, 
I'm all for it if it still allows me to purchase a pistol to carry legally and 
a shotgun to go hunting. I don't believe I should be allowed to own a machine 
gun type weapon for use at my home. Weapons like that should be allowed only at 
shooting ranges and locked up under heavy security. They do not belong at a 
residential home anywhere for sport or home protection. 

   

  So anyway, I think there are gun nuts out there that like to walk around 
while open carrying and say Obama is trying to steal all our guns. I think 
they're crazy and need a bonk on the head to come to your senses. Try acting 
normal and conceal your weapon, don't talk like a crazy gun nut and try to 
realize you don't need a machine gun. 

   

  The government's job is to protect as many citizens as possible. That means 
more laws, more enforcement, and more compliance. We can't easily identify and 
stop all people who will commit a shooting crime. We can more easily target 
guns themselves and prevent the sale of them to as many "bad" people as 
possible. For "good" and legal people who want to buy one, stop complaining 
about gun control and embrace it in order to help save lives. Gun control isn't 
meant for good people, only the bad people. You'll still be able to buy any 
weapon you "need" in order to hunt or protect your home. 

   

  On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Freedom is not the exercise to choose whatever you want.  Heck then free 
all the child molesters! Human beings need to be controlled, that the whole 
reasoning behind laws.  Im with Jaime and Stefan on this.  

     

    On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

      There are many items that kill more humans than first world guns.



      -----
      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions
      http://www.ics-il.com

       


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      From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 11:21:43 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

      Looking at this with a foreign view I can't understand this "gun love" in 
US. It is not all about the criminals or idiots. Just look at the statistics 
for accidents with weapons. The only way to save lifes is to be very 
restrictive. If someone wants to shoot he can go to a shooting club and leave 
the weapon there. It is not freedom to have a gun at home. It is silly esp. 
with kids around.

      You can't avoid killing with banning weapons but you can reduce it. If I 
need a weapon I call for police or security.

       

     





   

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