File with the FAA as I mentioned above. You can take a screenshot wth google earth and annotate it marking the power lines, their heights, etc.. When you get a file number and it is assigned I would call them, point out the power lines again, and find out if they want any documentation that you didn't already add. I think If you could upload a picture from a side azimuth with annotations that might help as well. I have found the FAA personnel very helpful.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I took over a tower that had a previous WISP on it. I have since found > that it is not registered in Towair, and fails the test. However, it is > just South of some high power lines which are taller than the tower, and > fall in between the tower and the airport. So, if they are flying low > enough to hit my tower they are going to fly straight into the power lines > anyway. What would be the process to get this tower legit? > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This is the FAA site: FAA >> <https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm> >> Enter everything and it will calculate if you need to provide notice. It >> costs nothing to do an off airport filing and they will respond in 45 days. >> Once assigned you can call the FAA person and they will tell you the max >> height you can build both with or without a survey. >> >> Here is the graphic from one I just did and the text with it: >> You exceed the following Notice Criteria: >> >> Your proposed structure is in proximity to a navigation facility and may >> impact the assurance of navigation signal reception. The FAA, in accordance >> with 77.9, requests that you file. >> >> 77.9(b) by 173 ft. The nearest airport is DYS, and the nearest runway is >> 16/34. >> >> The FAA requests that you file >> [image: Inline image 1] >> Notice they didn't say no, they said file it. As for the survey, you can >> go ahead and get a 1A as any surveyor will be more accurate by far than the >> requirements as listed below. In my experience, you should provide them >> with the exact survey verbiage to make sure they get it right as most >> surveyors haven't done one before. >> *HORIZONTAL**VERTICAL**Code Tolerance**Code Tolerance*1 +20 ft (6 m)A +3 >> ft (1 m)2 +50 ft (15 m)B +10 ft (3 m)3 +100 ft (30 m)C +20 ft (6 m) >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Jaime Solorza < >> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You can't assume. They look at primary secondary and emergency flight >>> paths....its not linear....we had to reduce a tower 10 ft. in Laredo even >>> though it was only 150 ft tall and three miles from airport!!! >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> On Oct 28, 2015 8:36 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Just to get the info out there, you guys might say its a nothing >>>> question anyway, 4+ miles from a tiny rural airport, 50ft tower at 77ft >>>> higher elevation, probably won't even break the tree tops. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:53 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports >>>> >>>> It’s actually pretty complex to figure out. Many factors such as if you >>>> are near the end, or the side of the runway come in to play. Other issues >>>> such as submitting a good 1A survey letter to have a ground elevation for >>>> the tower so the FAA will not add a margin of error to your height make a >>>> big difference. I used to do a lot of this work for a tower company about >>>> 17 years ago. Had some real advanced software to calculate the instrument >>>> approaches to see the maximum heights we could build towers. Different >>>> types of approaches are approved for various airfields. Our towers near >>>> airports always rented well J. TOWAIR is a good first pass for the >>>> easy stuff. If you need to do some harder work I recommend that you work >>>> with the folks at www.airspaceusa.com. The founder is a retired FAA >>>> guy and knows the best way to get things done. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank You, >>>> >>>> Brian Webster >>>> >>>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>>> >>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:00 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Towair says I'm good, but what are the distance requirements before it >>>> is an issue? >>>> >>>> I'd like some ballpark guidelines at least. Any tips? Something not in >>>> this horrible FCC tech/legaleze nonsense? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> *From:* Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> >>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:56 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There is one at 140ft closer to the airport than my planned one will >>>> be, only looking for a 50ft mini pop to hit a few houses behind a hill. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'll check out the site. >>>> >>>> Thanks guys. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:35 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a >>>> tower ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the >>>> national airspace is safe for everyone. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right >>>> spot and/or not too tall as to create a problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -sean >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the >>>> glide slope, and notify them of any frequency changes. I know that every >>>> tower that I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the >>>> test in towair. Still looking for alternatives. I just hate all the red >>>> tape. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What is the legality of towers near airports? >>>> >>>> How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> Lewis Bergman >> 325-439-0533 Cell >> > > -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell
