We do that at lower heights right next door, doubt that's your problem.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 15, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net>
wrote:

> from what google maps is showing 3-4 miles.
>
> ------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 11/15/15 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>
> At what distance?
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tim Reichhart <
> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>
>> I think my issue is my customer little ways from an hill and there is
>> tree in my way plus I am only 27 ft at customer house and my tower is 150ft.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Date: 11/15/15 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>
>> 5 GHz for LOS.
>>
>> 2 GHz is nearly always through a couple trees or more.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340
>> <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343
>> <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Nov 15, 2015 10:19 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, that is strange. Are these all LOS shots? I can't get the M2 to go
>>> through a single tree. I think it is multipathing working to our advantage
>>> because of the wider beamwidth. We don't have near the amount of trees that
>>> you have, but I have literally had to go back to every Nanobeam M2 install
>>> and swap them out because of service issues.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Opposite here...
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>  On Nov 15, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have not been impressed with the Nanobeam M2. I see way better
>>>>> performance to a M2 Nanostation and reflector. The TX rate always suffers
>>>>> (like the link you just put in). This is in contrast to a M5 400 where I
>>>>> see better performance than a M5 Nanostation and reflector.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I generally set them for whatever is the opposite that AP is on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They pretty much all come set auto out of the box and I won't find
>>>>>> out someone got a new router until they complain about the speed or 
>>>>>> latency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of them we don't have any problems, but there are always a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>  *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>>>>  *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>  *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:15 AM
>>>>>>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we were doing 2.4GHz, we set all the routers in the houses to
>>>>>> channel 6, no options. Then we used 1 and 11 for outdoor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of* Glen Waldrop
>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that
>>>>>> auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level,
>>>>>> ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't registered 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> noise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel
>>>>>> that feeds my customers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so realistically
>>>>>> the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose the sub 
>>>>>> carriers
>>>>>> are still the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone has any input that'd be awesome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now
>>>>>> they typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an
>>>>>> extension channel, so 6+11 or 1+6. We try to change the customer's router
>>>>>> to a fixed 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle of
>>>>>> the band for our APs. If your CPE setup is such that customers can hook 
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> a new router and it just works, over time they will migrate back to AUTO
>>>>>> 20/40 MHz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that's what we've
>>>>>> done on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise
>>>>>> is like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to 
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're goig 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and
>>>>>> 11 with 10mhz?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else is
>>>>>> on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 or 11.
>>>>>> Most SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff 
>>>>>> on 7
>>>>>> will get local interference most of the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>> these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the AP's
>>>>>> and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going have 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> probably switch it to 5ghz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those
>>>>>> stats are from the CPE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340
>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343
>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the problem..?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340
>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340/>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343
>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343/>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Guys
>>>>>> I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am
>>>>>> getting:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> signal strength -61 dBm
>>>>>> noise floor -89 dBm
>>>>>> transmit CCQ 86.4%
>>>>>> tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps
>>>>>> Channel width 10MHz
>>>>>> Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz
>>>>>> Version v5.6.2 (XW)
>>>>>> from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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