We do that at lower heights right next door, doubt that's your problem. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 15, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
> from what google maps is showing 3-4 miles. > > ------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Date: 11/15/15 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems > > At what distance? > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tim Reichhart < > timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > >> I think my issue is my customer little ways from an hill and there is >> tree in my way plus I am only 27 ft at customer house and my tower is 150ft. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Date: 11/15/15 10:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >> >> 5 GHz for LOS. >> >> 2 GHz is nearly always through a couple trees or more. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340 >> <http://tel:937-552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343 >> <http://tel:937-552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Nov 15, 2015 10:19 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, that is strange. Are these all LOS shots? I can't get the M2 to go >>> through a single tree. I think it is multipathing working to our advantage >>> because of the wider beamwidth. We don't have near the amount of trees that >>> you have, but I have literally had to go back to every Nanobeam M2 install >>> and swap them out because of service issues. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Opposite here... >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Nov 15, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have not been impressed with the Nanobeam M2. I see way better >>>>> performance to a M2 Nanostation and reflector. The TX rate always suffers >>>>> (like the link you just put in). This is in contrast to a M5 400 where I >>>>> see better performance than a M5 Nanostation and reflector. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I generally set them for whatever is the opposite that AP is on. >>>>>> >>>>>> They pretty much all come set auto out of the box and I won't find >>>>>> out someone got a new router until they complain about the speed or >>>>>> latency. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most of them we don't have any problems, but there are always a few. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:15 AM >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>> >>>>>> When we were doing 2.4GHz, we set all the routers in the houses to >>>>>> channel 6, no options. Then we used 1 and 11 for outdoor. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of* Glen Waldrop >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that >>>>>> auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is on. >>>>>> >>>>>> It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level, >>>>>> ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't registered >>>>>> as >>>>>> noise. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel >>>>>> that feeds my customers. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so realistically >>>>>> the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose the sub >>>>>> carriers >>>>>> are still the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> If anyone has any input that'd be awesome. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now >>>>>> they typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an >>>>>> extension channel, so 6+11 or 1+6. We try to change the customer's router >>>>>> to a fixed 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle of >>>>>> the band for our APs. If your CPE setup is such that customers can hook >>>>>> up >>>>>> a new router and it just works, over time they will migrate back to AUTO >>>>>> 20/40 MHz. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that's what we've >>>>>> done on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise >>>>>> is like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to >>>>>> take >>>>>> advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're goig >>>>>> to >>>>>> get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and >>>>>> 11 with 10mhz? >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>> >>>>>> Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else is >>>>>> on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 or 11. >>>>>> Most SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff >>>>>> on 7 >>>>>> will get local interference most of the time. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh >>>>>> these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the AP's >>>>>> and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going have >>>>>> to >>>>>> probably switch it to 5ghz. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those >>>>>> stats are from the CPE. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340 >>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343 >>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" < >>>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>> >>>>>> What's the problem..? >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340 >>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340/> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343 >>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343/> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" < >>>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Guys >>>>>> I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am >>>>>> getting: >>>>>> >>>>>> signal strength -61 dBm >>>>>> noise floor -89 dBm >>>>>> transmit CCQ 86.4% >>>>>> tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps >>>>>> Channel width 10MHz >>>>>> Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz >>>>>> Version v5.6.2 (XW) >>>>>> from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Call >>>>>> >>>>>> Send SMS >>>>>> >>>>>> Call from mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> Add to Skype >>>>>> >>>>>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Call >>>>>> >>>>>> Send SMS >>>>>> >>>>>> Call from mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> Add to Skype >>>>>> >>>>>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Call >> Send SMS >> Call from mobile >> Add to Skype >> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >> >> >> > > > > > Call > Send SMS > Call from mobile > Add to Skype > You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >