5 GHz for LOS.

2 GHz is nearly always through a couple trees or more.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 15, 2015 10:19 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, that is strange.  Are these all LOS shots?  I can't get the M2 to go
> through a single tree.  I think it is multipathing working to our advantage
> because of the wider beamwidth.  We don't have near the amount of trees
> that you have, but I have literally had to go back to every Nanobeam M2
> install and swap them out because of service issues.
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Opposite here...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Nov 15, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have not been impressed with the Nanobeam M2.  I see way better
>>> performance to a M2 Nanostation and reflector.  The TX rate always suffers
>>> (like the link you just put in).  This is in contrast to a M5 400 where I
>>> see better performance than a M5 Nanostation and reflector.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I generally set them for whatever is the opposite that AP is on.
>>>>
>>>> They pretty much all come set auto out of the box and I won't find out
>>>> someone got a new router until they complain about the speed or latency.
>>>>
>>>> Most of them we don't have any problems, but there are always a few.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:15 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>
>>>> When we were doing 2.4GHz, we set all the routers in the houses to
>>>> channel 6, no options.  Then we used 1 and 11 for outdoor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that
>>>> auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is on.
>>>>
>>>> It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level,
>>>> ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't registered as
>>>> noise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel
>>>> that feeds my customers.
>>>>
>>>> I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so realistically
>>>> the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose the sub carriers
>>>> are still the same.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any input that'd be awesome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now they
>>>> typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an extension
>>>> channel, so 6+11 or 1+6.  We try to change the customer’s router to a fixed
>>>> 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle of the band for
>>>> our APs.  If your CPE setup is such that customers can hook up a new router
>>>> and it just works, over time they will migrate back to AUTO 20/40 MHz.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that’s what we’ve done
>>>> on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise is
>>>> like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to take
>>>> advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're goig to
>>>> get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>> my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and 11
>>>> with 10mhz?
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>
>>>> Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else is
>>>> on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 or 11.
>>>> Most SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff on 7
>>>> will get local interference most of the time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>> these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the AP's
>>>> and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going have to
>>>> probably switch it to 5ghz.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>
>>>> Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those stats
>>>> are from the CPE.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>
>>>> What's the problem..?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340
>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340/>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343
>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343/>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Guys
>>>> I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am
>>>> getting:
>>>>
>>>> signal strength -61 dBm
>>>> noise floor -89 dBm
>>>> transmit CCQ 86.4%
>>>> tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps
>>>> Channel width 10MHz
>>>> Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz
>>>> Version v5.6.2 (XW)
>>>> from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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