Sector for sure. The CPE is getting full modulation. Sector isn't. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 15, 2015 11:19 AM, "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
> josh > @ the cpe or @ the sector? > > ------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Date: 11/15/15 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems > > Doubt it. Run an airview first to gather noise readings and then evaluate > frequency. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Nov 15, 2015 10:59 AM, "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net> > wrote: > >> If I was able to put an rf armor shield on the customers CPE would it >> change anything. I also switch that one sector to channel 1 and I was able >> to drop it from -61 to -55 to -57 but its still flipping the rx/tx from >> 13-29mbps/65mpbs. >> >> Tim >> >> ------------------------------ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Date: 11/15/15 10:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >> >> We do that at lower heights right next door, doubt that's your problem. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340 >> <http://tel:937-552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343 >> <http://tel:937-552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Nov 15, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net> >> wrote: >> >>> from what google maps is showing 3-4 miles. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Date: 11/15/15 10:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>> >>> At what distance? >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340 >>> <http://tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343 >>> <http://tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tim Reichhart < >>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I think my issue is my customer little ways from an hill and there is >>>> tree in my way plus I am only 27 ft at customer house and my tower is >>>> 150ft. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Date: 11/15/15 10:20 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>> >>>> 5 GHz for LOS. >>>> >>>> 2 GHz is nearly always through a couple trees or more. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340 >>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343 >>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Nov 15, 2015 10:19 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, that is strange. Are these all LOS shots? I can't get the M2 to >>>>> go through a single tree. I think it is multipathing working to our >>>>> advantage because of the wider beamwidth. We don't have near the amount of >>>>> trees that you have, but I have literally had to go back to every Nanobeam >>>>> M2 install and swap them out because of service issues. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Opposite here... >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> On Nov 15, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not been impressed with the Nanobeam M2. I see way better >>>>>>> performance to a M2 Nanostation and reflector. The TX rate always >>>>>>> suffers >>>>>>> (like the link you just put in). This is in contrast to a M5 400 where I >>>>>>> see better performance than a M5 Nanostation and reflector. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Glen Waldrop < >>>>>>> gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I generally set them for whatever is the opposite that AP is on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They pretty much all come set auto out of the box and I won't find >>>>>>>> out someone got a new router until they complain about the speed or >>>>>>>> latency. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most of them we don't have any problems, but there are always a few. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:15 AM >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When we were doing 2.4GHz, we set all the routers in the houses to >>>>>>>> channel 6, no options. Then we used 1 and 11 for outdoor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of* Glen >>>>>>>> Waldrop >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM >>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that >>>>>>>> auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is >>>>>>>> on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level, >>>>>>>> ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't >>>>>>>> registered as >>>>>>>> noise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel >>>>>>>> that feeds my customers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so >>>>>>>> realistically the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I >>>>>>>> suppose the >>>>>>>> sub carriers are still the same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If anyone has any input that'd be awesome. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now >>>>>>>> they typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an >>>>>>>> extension channel, so 6+11 or 1+6. We try to change the customer's >>>>>>>> router >>>>>>>> to a fixed 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the band for our APs. If your CPE setup is such that customers can >>>>>>>> hook up >>>>>>>> a new router and it just works, over time they will migrate back to >>>>>>>> AUTO >>>>>>>> 20/40 MHz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that's what we've >>>>>>>> done on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise >>>>>>>> is like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to >>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>> advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're >>>>>>>> goig to >>>>>>>> get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>> my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and >>>>>>>> 11 with 10mhz? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else >>>>>>>> is on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 >>>>>>>> or 11. >>>>>>>> Most SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff >>>>>>>> on 7 >>>>>>>> will get local interference most of the time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>> these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the >>>>>>>> AP's and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going >>>>>>>> have to probably switch it to 5ghz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those >>>>>>>> stats are from the CPE. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340> >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343> >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" < >>>>>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's the problem..? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340/> >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343/> >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" < >>>>>>>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Guys >>>>>>>> I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am >>>>>>>> getting: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> signal strength -61 dBm >>>>>>>> noise floor -89 dBm >>>>>>>> transmit CCQ 86.4% >>>>>>>> tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps >>>>>>>> Channel width 10MHz >>>>>>>> Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz >>>>>>>> Version v5.6.2 (XW) >>>>>>>> from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Call >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send SMS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Call from mobile >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Add to Skype >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Call >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send SMS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Call from mobile >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Add to Skype >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Call >>>> Send SMS >>>> Call from mobile >>>> Add to Skype >>>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Call from mobile >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Call >> Send SMS >> Call from mobile >> Add to Skype >> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >> >> >> > > > Call > Send SMS > Call from mobile > Add to Skype > You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >
