stop making sense Chuck....it makes head blow up Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > It more than cut my power bill in half. > > *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 12:09 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > It might have been reasonable until Perovskite was announced. It will > have an ROI in months. > > > > For me, a grid-tie system doesn’t make sense with the additional fees and > the difference in wholesale/retail, especially with an electric car that is > only home at night. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:53 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > even at 7-11 years, that isn't that unreasonable, since they should have > quite a bit longer life span than that... and you don't need any storage > with a grid-tie system. > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote: > > Did you buy it wholesale and build it yourself? The average installation > commercially or through any of the solar companies is 7-11 years. Also, > what are you doing for storage? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:43 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > I love my solar panels and the payback is about 4 years. > > > > *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:15 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > The two biggest problems with Wind Farms besides the eyesore (actually I > think they look cool) is noise and bird deaths. Never been a fan of them > though. > > > > Right now I’m against taxpayer subsidized solar for three reasons, the ROI > is ridiculous, and better/cheaper technologies are right around the corner > (100 times cheaper and ROI’s of months, not years), and there is no > cost-effective storage medium that is going to last more than a few years > (Lithium batteries are expensive and will fail within 3-8 years or at least > be heavily degraded). When Perovskite panels come out with sodium > batteries or one of several other technologies that don’t start degrading > after 18 months, I’m onboard. > > > > As for people against technology that could better their lives. I’m more > worried about the ones that won’t teach proven science for religious > reasons. You can teach science and morality without ignoring the science. > Tolerance of ignorance never a good thing. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 9:58 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > As far as I can see all the crazy sucking the energy up and causing cancer > type comments all came from two people (who were not council members)... > who happen to share the same last name. > > It sounds like the reason they voted to reject it was because the > residents didn't want it there... which is kind of the town council should > be doing, whether their reasons for wanting it there are logical or not > isn't entirely relevant. Most of the objections appear to have been that it > would be an eyesore... on the other hand, if the majority of the residents > did want it to happen, and the town council was just persuaded to turn it > down because of a couple of nutcases ranting, they should (and probably > will) be voted out in the next election. > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: > > I really didn't gather the full reason they banned the solar farm from the > article. True, two citizens that made comments were nuts but you find that > anywhere. > > Patrick Leary wrote: > > > Even worse Rory, because then you have many people who claim to know the > meaning of these labels but they are simply incorrect and are repeating > sound bites, and/or misapply them as a matter of course, even in > contradiction without a trace of irony. > > …e.g., “Obama is a follower of Reverend Wright!!!,” but is also a Kenyan > born Muslim. > > Go figure. It’s the death of critical thinking in this country. It has > spawned lots of ignorance. Did you know an elected city zoning board in > Woodland, NC just banned a solar farm on the grounds that it would steal > too much of the sun’s energy, thus putting photosynthesis of plants and > crops at risk? Yeah, that just happened in the U.S.A….in 2015. > > > http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/ > > Patrick > > *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > I think that was misunderstood. My point was, regardless of the > candidates, is that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the > facts, don’t care about the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote > that is based on research and education. I can ask 10 people what the > Trans Pacific Partnership was about and 10 of them won’t have a clue. Show > a picture of Biden to 10 people and I’d be surprised if 8 of them recognize > him and his position in the government. Most of them don’t have any idea of > our country’s history, could tell you the difference between Democracy, > Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought in World Wars, the Civil > War, or even which side won. The fact is, even with all the resources > available to the public today, the average voter is more ignorant today > than in the past. The all know the Kardashians but few of them could name > off their Senators or Congressman. This isn’t partisan, this is the state > of our country today. Picking out supporters of any candidate for being > ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless. > > Rory > > *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > Not trying to offend anyone on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on > news...but if you do get offended....I can only say. If the shoe > fits...don't take it off. > > On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com <mailto: > part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two > opposite opinions at the same time. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing > candidate is over simplification and pretty ignorant itself. > Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number > of people who believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns. > I had to laugh today. I saw some consultant interviewing a bunch > Trump supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he > was arrogant and thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a > second. You are a trump supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the > entire market cornered on that trait? > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza > <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > And I like Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz > or Trumps... > > On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Lets fact check Rory....lol > > On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" > <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: > > Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold > influence in that State Department for billions and took > hundreds of millions for bogus speeches. All candidates have > followers that really don’t know what’s going on so singling > out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters who thought > Obama was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real > Einstein moment). With 90% of the people not even knowing who > the vice-president is, you can always find idiots who will > vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he was for some hot political > topic. > > Rory > > *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > The scary thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his > followers...when they are interviewed it reminds how narrow > minded they are...they think professional wrestling is real > among other things but I might offend some on list... > > On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net > <mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote: > > I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and > thoughts on privacy. Our politicians are allowed to keep more > privacy. In such a case the private emails would not be open > to a broad audience. I did not say she followed US rules. > > -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- > Von: Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com > <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> > Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00) > An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > >
