Yes, I said "box". Soft-packs are for greasers.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > ....haha > took me a few seconds to process that. > > On 12/14/2015 3:39 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Is 7-11 years how long it takes to cash on out on a box of smokes and a >> slurpee? >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> even at 7-11 years, that isn't that unreasonable, since they should have >>> quite a bit longer life span than that... and you don't need any storage >>> with a grid-tie system. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Did you buy it wholesale and build it yourself? The average >>>> installation >>>> commercially or through any of the solar companies is 7-11 years. Also, >>>> what are you doing for storage? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:43 AM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I love my solar panels and the payback is about 4 years. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Rory Conaway >>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:15 AM >>>> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The two biggest problems with Wind Farms besides the eyesore (actually I >>>> think they look cool) is noise and bird deaths. Never been a fan of >>>> them >>>> though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Right now I’m against taxpayer subsidized solar for three reasons, the >>>> ROI >>>> is ridiculous, and better/cheaper technologies are right around the >>>> corner >>>> (100 times cheaper and ROI’s of months, not years), and there is no >>>> cost-effective storage medium that is going to last more than a few >>>> years >>>> (Lithium batteries are expensive and will fail within 3-8 years or at >>>> least >>>> be heavily degraded). When Perovskite panels come out with sodium >>>> batteries >>>> or one of several other technologies that don’t start degrading after 18 >>>> months, I’m onboard. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As for people against technology that could better their lives. I’m >>>> more >>>> worried about the ones that won’t teach proven science for religious >>>> reasons. You can teach science and morality without ignoring the >>>> science. >>>> Tolerance of ignorance never a good thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:58 AM >>>> To: af >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As far as I can see all the crazy sucking the energy up and causing >>>> cancer >>>> type comments all came from two people (who were not council members)... >>>> who >>>> happen to share the same last name. >>>> >>>> It sounds like the reason they voted to reject it was because the >>>> residents didn't want it there... which is kind of the town council >>>> should >>>> be doing, whether their reasons for wanting it there are logical or not >>>> isn't entirely relevant. Most of the objections appear to have been that >>>> it >>>> would be an eyesore... on the other hand, if the majority of the >>>> residents >>>> did want it to happen, and the town council was just persuaded to turn >>>> it >>>> down because of a couple of nutcases ranting, they should (and probably >>>> will) be voted out in the next election. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley >>>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I really didn't gather the full reason they banned the solar farm from >>>> the >>>> article. True, two citizens that made comments were nuts but you find >>>> that >>>> anywhere. >>>> >>>> Patrick Leary wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Even worse Rory, because then you have many people who claim to know the >>>> meaning of these labels but they are simply incorrect and are repeating >>>> sound bites, and/or misapply them as a matter of course, even in >>>> contradiction without a trace of irony. >>>> >>>> …e.g., “Obama is a follower of Reverend Wright!!!,” but is also a Kenyan >>>> born Muslim. >>>> >>>> Go figure. It’s the death of critical thinking in this country. It has >>>> spawned lots of ignorance. Did you know an elected city zoning board in >>>> Woodland, NC just banned a solar farm on the grounds that it would steal >>>> too >>>> much of the sun’s energy, thus putting photosynthesis of plants and >>>> crops at >>>> risk? Yeah, that just happened in the U.S.A….in 2015. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/ >>>> >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >>>> >>>> I think that was misunderstood. My point was, regardless of the >>>> candidates, is that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the >>>> facts, >>>> don’t care about the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote that >>>> is >>>> based on research and education. I can ask 10 people what the Trans >>>> Pacific >>>> Partnership was about and 10 of them won’t have a clue. Show a picture >>>> of >>>> Biden to 10 people and I’d be surprised if 8 of them recognize him and >>>> his >>>> position in the government. Most of them don’t have any idea of our >>>> country’s history, could tell you the difference between Democracy, >>>> Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought in World Wars, the >>>> Civil >>>> War, or even which side won. The fact is, even with all the resources >>>> available to the public today, the average voter is more ignorant today >>>> than >>>> in the past. The all know the Kardashians but few of them could name >>>> off >>>> their Senators or Congressman. This isn’t partisan, this is the state >>>> of >>>> our country today. Picking out supporters of any candidate for being >>>> ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless. >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM >>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >>>> >>>> Not trying to offend anyone on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on >>>> news...but if you do get offended....I can only say. If the shoe >>>> fits...don't take it off. >>>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two >>>> opposite opinions at the same time. >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>> >>>> I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing >>>> candidate is over simplification and pretty ignorant itself. >>>> Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number >>>> of people who believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns. >>>> I had to laugh today. I saw some consultant interviewing a bunch >>>> Trump supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he >>>> was arrogant and thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a >>>> second. You are a trump supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the >>>> entire market cornered on that trait? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza >>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> And I like Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz >>>> or Trumps... >>>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Lets fact check Rory....lol >>>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" >>>> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold >>>> influence in that State Department for billions and took >>>> hundreds of millions for bogus speeches. All candidates have >>>> followers that really don’t know what’s going on so singling >>>> out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters who thought >>>> Obama was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real >>>> Einstein moment). With 90% of the people not even knowing who >>>> the vice-president is, you can always find idiots who will >>>> vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he was for some hot political >>>> topic. >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM >>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >>>> >>>> The scary thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his >>>> followers...when they are interviewed it reminds how narrow >>>> minded they are...they think professional wrestling is real >>>> among other things but I might offend some on list... >>>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net >>>> <mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and >>>> thoughts on privacy. Our politicians are allowed to keep more >>>> privacy. In such a case the private emails would not be open >>>> to a broad audience. I did not say she followed US rules. >>>> >>>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- >>>> Von: Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> >>>> Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00) >>>> An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>> computer >>>> viruses. >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>> computer >>>> viruses. >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >
