Yes, it's like dog-years, only different. :P On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is 7-11 years how long it takes to cash on out on a box of smokes and a > slurpee? > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > even at 7-11 years, that isn't that unreasonable, since they should have > > quite a bit longer life span than that... and you don't need any storage > > with a grid-tie system. > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Did you buy it wholesale and build it yourself? The average > installation > >> commercially or through any of the solar companies is 7-11 years. Also, > >> what are you doing for storage? > >> > >> > >> > >> Rory > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:43 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > >> > >> > >> > >> I love my solar panels and the payback is about 4 years. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Rory Conaway > >> > >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:15 AM > >> > >> To: [email protected] > >> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > >> > >> > >> > >> The two biggest problems with Wind Farms besides the eyesore (actually I > >> think they look cool) is noise and bird deaths. Never been a fan of > them > >> though. > >> > >> > >> > >> Right now I’m against taxpayer subsidized solar for three reasons, the > ROI > >> is ridiculous, and better/cheaper technologies are right around the > corner > >> (100 times cheaper and ROI’s of months, not years), and there is no > >> cost-effective storage medium that is going to last more than a few > years > >> (Lithium batteries are expensive and will fail within 3-8 years or at > least > >> be heavily degraded). When Perovskite panels come out with sodium > batteries > >> or one of several other technologies that don’t start degrading after 18 > >> months, I’m onboard. > >> > >> > >> > >> As for people against technology that could better their lives. I’m > more > >> worried about the ones that won’t teach proven science for religious > >> reasons. You can teach science and morality without ignoring the > science. > >> Tolerance of ignorance never a good thing. > >> > >> > >> > >> Rory > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard > >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:58 AM > >> To: af > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > >> > >> > >> > >> As far as I can see all the crazy sucking the energy up and causing > cancer > >> type comments all came from two people (who were not council > members)... who > >> happen to share the same last name. > >> > >> It sounds like the reason they voted to reject it was because the > >> residents didn't want it there... which is kind of the town council > should > >> be doing, whether their reasons for wanting it there are logical or not > >> isn't entirely relevant. Most of the objections appear to have been > that it > >> would be an eyesore... on the other hand, if the majority of the > residents > >> did want it to happen, and the town council was just persuaded to turn > it > >> down because of a couple of nutcases ranting, they should (and probably > >> will) be voted out in the next election. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> I really didn't gather the full reason they banned the solar farm from > the > >> article. True, two citizens that made comments were nuts but you find > that > >> anywhere. > >> > >> Patrick Leary wrote: > >> > >> > >> Even worse Rory, because then you have many people who claim to know the > >> meaning of these labels but they are simply incorrect and are repeating > >> sound bites, and/or misapply them as a matter of course, even in > >> contradiction without a trace of irony. > >> > >> …e.g., “Obama is a follower of Reverend Wright!!!,” but is also a Kenyan > >> born Muslim. > >> > >> Go figure. It’s the death of critical thinking in this country. It has > >> spawned lots of ignorance. Did you know an elected city zoning board in > >> Woodland, NC just banned a solar farm on the grounds that it would > steal too > >> much of the sun’s energy, thus putting photosynthesis of plants and > crops at > >> risk? Yeah, that just happened in the U.S.A….in 2015. > >> > >> > >> > http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/ > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway > >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32 PM > >> *To:* [email protected] > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > >> > >> I think that was misunderstood. My point was, regardless of the > >> candidates, is that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the > facts, > >> don’t care about the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote that > is > >> based on research and education. I can ask 10 people what the Trans > Pacific > >> Partnership was about and 10 of them won’t have a clue. Show a picture > of > >> Biden to 10 people and I’d be surprised if 8 of them recognize him and > his > >> position in the government. Most of them don’t have any idea of our > >> country’s history, could tell you the difference between Democracy, > >> Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought in World Wars, the > Civil > >> War, or even which side won. The fact is, even with all the resources > >> available to the public today, the average voter is more ignorant today > than > >> in the past. The all know the Kardashians but few of them could name > off > >> their Senators or Congressman. This isn’t partisan, this is the state > of > >> our country today. Picking out supporters of any candidate for being > >> ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless. > >> > >> Rory > >> > >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM > >> *To:* Animal Farm > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > >> > >> Not trying to offend anyone on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on > >> news...but if you do get offended....I can only say. If the shoe > >> fits...don't take it off. > >> > >> On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two > >> opposite opinions at the same time. > >> > >> bp > >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >> > >> On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > >> > >> I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing > >> candidate is over simplification and pretty ignorant itself. > >> Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number > >> of people who believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns. > >> I had to laugh today. I saw some consultant interviewing a bunch > >> Trump supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he > >> was arrogant and thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a > >> second. You are a trump supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the > >> entire market cornered on that trait? > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > >> > >> And I like Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz > >> or Trumps... > >> > >> On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Lets fact check Rory....lol > >> > >> On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold > >> influence in that State Department for billions and took > >> hundreds of millions for bogus speeches. All candidates have > >> followers that really don’t know what’s going on so singling > >> out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters who thought > >> Obama was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real > >> Einstein moment). With 90% of the people not even knowing who > >> the vice-president is, you can always find idiots who will > >> vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he was for some hot political > >> topic. > >> > >> Rory > >> > >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM > >> *To:* Animal Farm > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > >> > >> The scary thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his > >> followers...when they are interviewed it reminds how narrow > >> minded they are...they think professional wrestling is real > >> among other things but I might offend some on list... > >> > >> On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and > >> thoughts on privacy. Our politicians are allowed to keep more > >> privacy. In such a case the private emails would not be open > >> to a broad audience. I did not say she followed US rules. > >> > >> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- > >> Von: Lewis Bergman <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00) > >> An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ************************************************************************************ > >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer > >> viruses. > >> > >> > ************************************************************************************ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ************************************************************************************ > >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer > >> viruses. > >> > >> > ************************************************************************************ > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
