That doesn't mean it isn't an issue... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 3, 2016 6:11 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> Not a Winbox issue. > > I can connect a laptop with its NIC forced to 100FDX and see ping loss. I > also see devices downstream of a 100M interface on this router that I > monitor for packet loss and starting when this router was changed, the > packet loss graphs went from essentially zero to around 0.5%. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 03, 2016 5:03 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet > links > > FYI I use Winbox 2.2.18 100% of the time since 11/3/2011 - maybe try that? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> I get the same results with Winbox 3.0 or Winbox 2.2.13. Note this >> problem shows up as on other stuff not just Winbox, it's just easy to test >> with Winbox because it shows up easily as disconnects or failure to load >> plugins. >> >> Note that I can use Winbox fine through an interface running at gigabit, >> or I can Winbox through this router to another Mikrotik via a 100M >> interface, the stress on the interface seems to be when the packets are >> originating from this router itself and trying to go out a 100M interface. >> But I also see low level packet loss on normal traffic through the >> interface, although it doesn't show up as drops or errors in the stats. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz >> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 4:35 PM >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet >> links >> >> Are u using the new version of winbox ? >> i.e. ver 3.0 ? there are issues with older version of the Winbox too. >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 4:03:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet >>> links >>> >> >> I tried multi-queue Ethernet default and it didn't work, even with queue >>> size increased to 500 packets. >>> >>> 5.26 still works fine. Best way to see problem is to clear Winbox cache >>> so >>> it has to download plugins. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Faisal Imtiaz >>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 11:02 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet >>> links >>> >>> Don't forget to reboot the unit after making the queue changes. >>> >>> Also I would suggest to reach out to Brian Vargas @ Balticnetworks and >>> see >>> if they have any suggestions and or if they can replicate what you are >>> seeing. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 11:27:45 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet >>>> links >>>> >>> >>> I thought about the first part but didn't try it, I'll try it on the lab >>>> router tomorrow. >>>> >>>> No, I don't see anything reported in the stats, as far as they are >>>> concerned, everything is good. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 10:17 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet >>>> links >>>> >>>> Try something.... >>>> >>>> change the interface queue to multi-queue-Ethernet-default >>>> and increase the queue size packet buffer for it. (it should be mq >>>> pfifo) >>>> >>>> Do you see errors / packet loss being reported in the stats ? >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>>> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 8:09:46 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet >>>>> links >>>>> >>>> >>>> I downgraded to 6.25 and still saw the problems. >>>>> >>>>> I don't really want to go back any farther, likely the issue started >>>>> with >>>>> the new kernel and drivers when 6.x first came out. I figure if I >>>>> can't >>>>> run >>>>> any of the recent versions, I might as well go back to 5.26. Unless >>>>> someone >>>>> knows of a specific cause and how to fix it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Kevin Radunz >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:32 PM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik x86 and ROS 6.x problems on 100M Ethernet >>>>> links >>>>> >>>>> I think some weard problems started around 6.33. There are posts of >>>>> different topics about things like Winbox and VPN traffic not working >>>>> but >>>>> traffic through the device was fine. Some thought MTU changes but I'm >>>>> not >>>>> sure I saw concrete fixes. I know earlier versions don't do this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I recently upgraded one of those RouterMaxx 1106 routers from 5.2 to >>>>>> 6.33.1 >>>>>> (I actually configured a new router and swapped hardware). Ever >>>>>> since, >>>>>> I >>>>>> have had performance problems with a couple ports that are connected >>>>>> to >>>>>> radios with 100M Ethernet ports. The most obvious symptom is that >>>>>> Winbox >>>>>> won't stay connected or can't download plugins, but I also see pings >>>>>> dropped >>>>>> even to the directly connected equipment. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was a bad boy making multiple changes at once, so I've been >>>>>> gradually >>>>>> walking them back in the lab on the original router, I upgraded it to >>>>>> 6.33.1 >>>>>> and the problem appeared. I dropped back to 6.31 and it was still >>>>>> there, >>>>>> but when I dropped back to 5.26 everything was fine again. I haven't >>>>>> tried >>>>>> earlier 6.x versions yet, 6.31 is the oldest x86 version I have handy. >>>>>> This >>>>>> is not a radio problem, I can reproduce it with a directly connected >>>>>> laptop >>>>>> if I force the laptop NIC to 100M FDX. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone familiar with this problem? I can't find anything on the >>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>> forums. I guess I can live with 5.26 if I have to, but I'd like to >>>>>> know >>>>>> what is causing this. Do I just need to change some configuration >>>>>> parameter? I know 6.x brought out hardware only queues, but I think >>>>>> that's >>>>>> for Routerboards, not x86. Is there a problem with the Intel NIC >>>>>> drivers >>>>>> included with 6.x? Any chance that an earlier or later version of 6.x >>>>>> will >>>>>> >>>>> >>> work for me? I see nothing in the change logs about it. >>> >> >> >> >
