I want one of those 4-sided towers like you see along the tollway.  The ones 
that look like there should be a fire lookout tower at the top.

Or maybe a Sabre S4R.
https://www.facebook.com/Sabreindustries/photos/pb.240001369446373.-2207520000.1451953683./255490917897418/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/Sabreindustries/photos/pb.240001369446373.-2207520000.1451953803./255490931230750/?type=3&theater



From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

The top two sections on our office SSV are 5N and 4N. I think it's something 
like 8-10" of slope over that 40 feet. The 6, 7 and 8N sections are obviously a 
lot different.

What's funny is that the top two sections weigh more than the bottom three 
because the tops are solid rod legs and braces. They had all 100 feet of that 
thing stacked in like 35 minutes. Real tower constructors with an experienced 
crane operator know how to get shit done son!

I also specifically requested that we did not do the skinny 3, 2, and 1W SSV 
sections on top and opted for the larger 8N base. Good thing too because I 
think it would've folded over in the 165+ MPH tornado. In fact, I'm sure it 
would have.


On 1/4/2016 5:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  Just saying I thought on a Rohn SSV once you got to the upper sections 1-5 
they were straight and all the same face width, but actually there’s a bit of 
taper to them.

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 4:31 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

  oh okay ...i was going to say that is a Bozo no no

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I think he's talking about mounting radios directly on the tower legs, 
using the radio's mount built in elevation adjustment, rather than a standoff 
mount which is normally needed on a tapering self supporting tower.


    On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

      humm?  are you suggesting mating two different model towers?   


      Jaime Solorza 
      Wireless Systems Architect
      915-861-1390

      On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

        Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV are ALMOST 
straight, not quite.  Close enough for government work though.

        -----Original Message----- From: Daniel White
        Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

        What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top 
50ft of a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further 
apart. I like those towers.

        Thank you,

        Daniel White
        afmu...@gmail.com
        Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
        Skype: danieldwhite
        Social: LinkedIn: Twitter


          -----Original Message-----
          From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
          Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
          To: af@afmug.com
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower


          Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
          20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.

          Bill Prince wrote:
          > Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
          > omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 
feet
          > un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
          >
          > bp
          > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
          >
          > On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
          >> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
          >> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
          >> is 40 feet. Is this true?
          >
          >
          >




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