So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all of our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE directly into our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco box basically running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our NOC. It's beyond stupid.
They are technological neophytes. On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content > providers. I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster. I think > I am going to have to approach the problem head on. If I can convince them > either in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make > it work. > > Consider two situations: > 1) Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like > riding on it. TV downlink is on a VLAN > 2) Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone > on it. TV downlink is on a VPN. > > First is kosher second is forbidden. Go figure. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV > > > We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They > require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't > directly own (transport). It's insane. > On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> It can be easily. It can touch a fairly large content delivery network, >> but that cuts into profit. >> >> *From:* Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >> >> >> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks >> already? We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, >> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there. >> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream. >>> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is >>> about 2 gbps full time. >>> >>> *From:* Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> How much transport is required and where in utah? >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means >>>> no. >>>> >>>> *From:* Josh Corson <j...@bluebitnetworks.com> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>> >>>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June >>>> 1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then? >>>> >>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move. >>>>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend. >>>>> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various >>>>> tunneling and VPN methods. >>>>> >>>>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Josh Corson >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM >>>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>> >>>>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an >>>>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if >>>>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown < >>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You are. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Erich Kaiser >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM >>>>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>> >>>>>> Put me on the list >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Erich Kaiser >>>>>> North Central Tower >>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com'); >>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown < >>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps. The wanted me to mediate with >>>>>>> the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to. >>>>>>> They have all your email addresses. Hopefully you will get >>>>>>> something direct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>>>> >>>>>>> " still awaiting? " hum ,,,try this, >>>>>>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding >>>>>>> with...... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ducking under my phone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect >>>>>>> 915-861-1390 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown < >>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have not forgot about everyone. Still awaiting a document from >>>>>>>> Realchoice before I can proceed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> *Josh Corson* >>>>> Operations Manager >>>>> BlueBit Networks >>>>> bluebitnetworks.com >>>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Josh Corson* >>>> Operations Manager >>>> BlueBit Networks >>>> bluebitnetworks.com >>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>
