Shoot me an email tomorrow and we'll talk. On Jan 7, 2016 8:55 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> If you want to take this off list, that is fine. > I am keenly interested in which content providers are OK with a VPN > tunnel. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:52 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV > > > Yeah, it's just a low end router that runs a VPN tunnel that they have > access to. > On Jan 7, 2016 8:49 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Well, that is better than nothing. Do they have specs on the magic box? >> >> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:12 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >> >> >> So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all >> of our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE >> directly into our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco >> box basically running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our >> NOC. It's beyond stupid. >> >> They are technological neophytes. >> On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content >>> providers. I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster. I think >>> I am going to have to approach the problem head on. If I can convince them >>> either in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make >>> it work. >>> >>> Consider two situations: >>> 1) Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like >>> riding on it. TV downlink is on a VLAN >>> 2) Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet >>> backbone on it. TV downlink is on a VPN. >>> >>> First is kosher second is forbidden. Go figure. >>> >>> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They >>> require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't >>> directly own (transport). It's insane. >>> On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It can be easily. It can touch a fairly large content delivery >>>> network, but that cuts into profit. >>>> >>>> *From:* Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>> >>>> >>>> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks >>>> already? We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, >>>> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there. >>>> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per >>>>> stream. >>>>> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it >>>>> is about 2 gbps full time. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>> >>>>> How much transport is required and where in utah? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably >>>>>> means no. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Josh Corson <j...@bluebitnetworks.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June >>>>>> 1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move. >>>>>>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend. >>>>>>> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various >>>>>>> tunneling and VPN methods. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Josh Corson >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM >>>>>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an >>>>>>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown < >>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Erich Kaiser >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Put me on the list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Erich Kaiser >>>>>>>> North Central Tower >>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com'); >>>>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>>>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown < >>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps. The wanted me to mediate >>>>>>>>> with the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to. >>>>>>>>> They have all your email addresses. Hopefully you will get >>>>>>>>> something direct. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " still awaiting? " hum ,,,try this, >>>>>>>>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding >>>>>>>>> with...... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ducking under my phone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect >>>>>>>>> 915-861-1390 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown < >>>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have not forgot about everyone. Still awaiting a document from >>>>>>>>>> Realchoice before I can proceed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Josh Corson* >>>>>>> Operations Manager >>>>>>> BlueBit Networks >>>>>>> bluebitnetworks.com >>>>>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> *Josh Corson* >>>>>> Operations Manager >>>>>> BlueBit Networks >>>>>> bluebitnetworks.com >>>>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>
