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From: Ken Hohhof
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day
It doesn’t bother you that a search for high speed Internet in your town is
useless because Google lets lead generators game their system so that the first
several pages of results are ISPs that don’t even have service there?
Money and monopoly power has corrupted Google’s search business (and
associated services like Maps). They are obviously not strapped for cash, they
should spend a few bucks fixing their search engine. Until they do, we should
look for and use better search engines. So don’t use Google to find a
locksmith. Better choices like Yelp and Angies List come to mind, plus
probably some I’m not thinking of at the moment.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day
You just described every large scale data source ever.
Congratulations
On Feb 2, 2016 8:41 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Locked out of your house? Don’t use Google to find a locksmith.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/business/fake-online-locksmiths-may-be-out-to-pick-your-pocket-too.html
Read the whole article to find out just how badly Google search and map
results are corrupted. This locksmith must be legit, I can see their building
on Google Maps. Oh, not really there, created by Photoshop and
“crowdsourcing”. And driven by a “lead generator” to make it look local. And
advertising $19 but paying twice that to Google for the AdWords click. SCAM,
SCAM, SCAM.
From: George Skorup
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 11:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day
Nobody says "Let me Bing/Yahoo that". So yeah, Google is how you search the
interwebs. But I agree on the other point. I do not trust any company that has
(or can have) such huge control over information. Be it Google, Microsoft,
Apple, etc... or the government.
On 2/1/2016 11:36 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
I would use Yahoo or Bing or any other search engine. Nothing would
change if Google went away tomorrow.
Blackberries and Android wouldn't even exist if Apple hadn't created the
first iPhone. Same with tablets... look how many people tried tablets before
Apple, and they all failed.
I purchased a Macbook for my daughter headed to college 5 years ago. She
used that laptop literally every day, for over 5 years. She graduated with two
Bachelor's degrees... using that same laptop. Every paper, thousands of emails,
etc... and she has never had a single issue... no viruses, no hardware issues,
no software issues. Never a single issue. No OS reload, no malware scanners,
nothing. It just works. Just like all the rest of Apple's products... they just
work.
Travis
On 2/1/2016 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
The world's most popular site and you don't think the world would
change? Really???
Apple is gone. People buy Blackberries and Android. Tablets probably
won't exist. Mp3 players would probably have come to fruition without them.
What else do they have?
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Feb 2, 2016 12:22 AM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote:
At least Apple makes products... products that literally changed the
computing world, the phone world, the retail world, created apps, and the music
world. Google created a search engine (actually copying Yahoo, Webcrawler,
Altavista and several others at the time). They aren't a "product". They don't
"sell" anything. They are a webpage, just like Facebook.
Imagine your life without Google or Facebook. NOTHING CHANGES.
Yes, they built a better mousetrap using their intelligence and hard
work... but they aren't "inventors". They didn't create anything new or
groundbreaking.
Travis
On 2/1/2016 10:09 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
I'd much rather Google / Alphabet Inc. be in that position than
Apple with their overpriced yet restricted / non-upgradable / crappy consumer
electronics.
Google is making themselves the curator of access to the world's
information and communications. When you consider the value of those, it's not
just the most valuable company in matters of money. The founders had incredible
foresight in addition to their intelligence and hard work.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net>
wrote:
http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113
"The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money.
It's run by little ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's all just
electrons."
~ Cosmo (Sneakers 1992)
Literally, a one page website for a company that is less than 19
years old is now the most valuable company in the world. :(
Travis
