​yes pmp 450 AP with pmp450 sm

this will be installed with some trees in front of it but need to give them a 
lot of speeds this is why I chose this...if it doesn't work ill jest give then 
a 900 and end all these problems


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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 11:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

First.

The AP is a PMP450 AP. Correct?

Second.

The SM is a PMP450 SM. Correct?

Define "trees". I have a rule that we do not even attempt any 5 GHz devices 
through trees.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



On 2/2/2016 8:50 AM, Ryan Mano wrote:
am waiting on another sm I really think I have a bad sm

am doing all what you guys are saying and nothing

can the 450 shoot though some trees of does it need line of site


-------- Original message --------
From: George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com><mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>
Date: 2016-02-01 8:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

Are you talking about the Cambium 60 degree sector that has the third connector 
for FSK (in the middle I think)? Or did you just put the FSK AP on the vertical 
port for testing before swapping to the 450 AP?

It will sit at 8X/1X QPSK MIMO-A while scanning to listen for beacons, so that 
is normal. I think you need to figure out why the SM can't hear the AP at 
range. Could be bad/damaged SM or AP. Do you have another SM or AP to try? Or 
RF pigtails between the AP and antenna. Easy way to get some idea of what's 
going on is to run the spectrum analyzer on the AP. Does it see anything at all?

On 2/1/2016 6:40 PM, Ryan Mano wrote:
It registers 12 feet in front of the AP at 8x/1x…if I point at it 1 mile down 
the road it will not link just says scanning

I only enable the  freq that the ap is using and unchecked all the rest…this is 
what I meant by isolating
AP eval shows nothing at 1 mile mark but close up it shows

So from what you guys are saying the first 8x means what the sm is capable of 
doing and the second number 1x is actual speed?

So if it registers at 1x…12feet in from the of ap then it would make sense that 
it would not see anything if I try it at a mile
Guess I will have to pass traffic through it to see if it works from what you 
guys are telling me

I know for a fact that the sector antenna works because I attached a pmp100 AP 
to it and that registered without any issues…do you think me plugging a pmp100 
into the sector antenna would cause this?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 5:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

OK, then it's not what I was thinking. If you had software on them older than 
13.2 I believe, and you also had an AP where the factory reversed the pigtails 
internally, your beacons would end up on horizontal instead of vertical and the 
SM probably wouldn't hear it.

You say you're getting 8X/1X but it's also not registering. That does not 
compute. As other have suggested, try locking down the SM's scan list to the 
exact frequency and channel bandwidth that the AP is on. Tone alignment helps. 
If you can get a laptop, tablet, phone, etc. and look at the Tools > AP Eval 
page on the SM, does anything show up there? That's one of the first things our 
techs are supposed to do when troubleshooting on-site. If it's obviously not an 
alignment issue, log in and look at the AP eval.
On 2/1/2016 3:46 PM, Ryan Mano wrote:
Running 5.7 software ver 14.1.1

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 4:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

There still seems to be some misconception on this. 8X/1X means that it's 8X 
capable / 1X current. It's always going to show 8X capable (or 2X for FSK, 3X 
for 430). After the / is what you need to pay attention to. Also, the uplink 
and downlink are independent. On the AP session status page (power tab), that's 
the downlink rate to that SM. On the SM main page, link status, etc., that's 
the uplink rate to the AP.

What band is this? 2.4, 3.6, 5.4 or 5.7? And what software version do you have 
on the radios? It'd be best to stick with 13.2.1 for now.

For the longest time I too thought this was backwards. I assure you it's 
correct.
On 2/1/2016 2:26 PM, Ryan Mano wrote:

8x down 1x up

this is the first sm am trying to install on it
​

the freq am on is very clean not sure what the problem is....unless am missing 
a setting?






________________________________
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com><mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh 
Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com><mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

Signals on each side?

8x down 1x up?  Could be an uplink path issue or heavy interference at the AP 
side.  Have you changed frequencies?  Spectrum analysis?  Is this the first SM 
on the AP?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:

am new to the pmp450 looks straight forward but am having issues registering it 
from a distance​

when I point the sm  which is 12 feet in front of the ap it syncs 8x by 1x 
...but if I go 1mile down the road it doesn't register at all

not sure what am doing wrong...has anyone had this similar issue like this?

thanks












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