Yep... all trees are not equal, but as a general rule, 5ghz doesn't like them.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > Satellite view of "some trees"? 1 mile with a tree or two shouldn't be > too hateful, but if it's a solid forest in that mile 900 is the better > choice. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Ryan Mano <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> yes pmp 450 AP with pmp450 sm >> >> this will be installed with some trees in front of it but need to give >> them a lot of speeds this is why I chose this...if it doesn't work ill jest >> give then a 900 and end all these problems >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Prince < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 11:52 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 >> >> First. >> >> The AP is a PMP450 AP. Correct? >> >> Second. >> >> The SM is a PMP450 SM. Correct? >> >> Define "trees". I have a rule that we do not even attempt any 5 GHz >> devices through trees. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 2/2/2016 8:50 AM, Ryan Mano wrote: >> >> am waiting on another sm I really think I have a bad sm >> >> am doing all what you guys are saying and nothing >> >> can the 450 shoot though some trees of does it need line of site >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: George Skorup <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> Date: 2016-02-01 8:53 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 >> >> Are you talking about the Cambium 60 degree sector that has the third >> connector for FSK (in the middle I think)? Or did you just put the FSK AP >> on the vertical port for testing before swapping to the 450 AP? >> >> It will sit at 8X/1X QPSK MIMO-A while scanning to listen for beacons, so >> that is normal. I think you need to figure out why the SM can't hear the AP >> at range. Could be bad/damaged SM or AP. Do you have another SM or AP to >> try? Or RF pigtails between the AP and antenna. Easy way to get some idea >> of what's going on is to run the spectrum analyzer on the AP. Does it see >> anything at all? >> >> On 2/1/2016 6:40 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: >> >> It registers 12 feet in front of the AP at 8x/1x…if I point at it 1 mile >> down the road it will not link just says scanning >> >> >> >> I only enable the freq that the ap is using and unchecked all the >> rest…this is what I meant by isolating >> >> AP eval shows nothing at 1 mile mark but close up it shows >> >> >> >> So from what you guys are saying the first 8x means what the sm is >> capable of doing and the second number 1x is actual speed? >> >> >> >> So if it registers at 1x…12feet in from the of ap then it would make >> sense that it would not see anything if I try it at a mile >> >> Guess I will have to pass traffic through it to see if it works from what >> you guys are telling me >> >> >> >> I know for a fact that the sector antenna works because I attached a >> pmp100 AP to it and that registered without any issues…do you think me >> plugging a pmp100 into the sector antenna would cause this? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *George Skorup >> *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2016 5:09 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 >> >> >> >> OK, then it's not what I was thinking. If you had software on them older >> than 13.2 I believe, and you also had an AP where the factory reversed the >> pigtails internally, your beacons would end up on horizontal instead of >> vertical and the SM probably wouldn't hear it. >> >> You say you're getting 8X/1X but it's also not registering. That does not >> compute. As other have suggested, try locking down the SM's scan list to >> the exact frequency and channel bandwidth that the AP is on. Tone alignment >> helps. If you can get a laptop, tablet, phone, etc. and look at the Tools > >> AP Eval page on the SM, does anything show up there? That's one of the >> first things our techs are supposed to do when troubleshooting on-site. If >> it's obviously not an alignment issue, log in and look at the AP eval. >> >> On 2/1/2016 3:46 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: >> >> Running 5.7 software ver 14.1.1 >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *George Skorup >> *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2016 4:42 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 >> >> >> >> There still seems to be some misconception on this. 8X/1X means that it's >> 8X capable / 1X current. It's always going to show 8X capable (or 2X for >> FSK, 3X for 430). After the / is what you need to pay attention to. Also, >> the uplink and downlink are independent. On the AP session status page >> (power tab), that's the downlink rate to that SM. On the SM main page, link >> status, etc., that's the uplink rate to the AP. >> >> What band is this? 2.4, 3.6, 5.4 or 5.7? And what software version do you >> have on the radios? It'd be best to stick with 13.2.1 for now. >> >> For the longest time I too thought this was backwards. I assure you it's >> correct. >> >> On 2/1/2016 2:26 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: >> >> 8x down 1x up >> >> >> >> this is the first sm am trying to install on it >> >> >> >> >> >> the freq am on is very clean not sure what the problem is....unless am >> missing a setting? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Af <[email protected]> <[email protected]> on behalf of >> Josh Luthman <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2016 3:17 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 >> >> >> >> Signals on each side? >> >> >> >> 8x down 1x up? Could be an uplink path issue or heavy interference at >> the AP side. Have you changed frequencies? Spectrum analysis? Is this >> the first SM on the AP? >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Ryan Mano <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> am new to the pmp450 looks straight forward but am having issues >> registering it from a distance >> >> >> >> when I point the sm which is 12 feet in front of the ap it syncs 8x by >> 1x ...but if I go 1mile down the road it doesn't register at all >> >> >> >> not sure what am doing wrong...has anyone had this similar issue like >> this? >> >> >> >> thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
