Satellite view of "some trees"? 1 mile with a tree or two shouldn't be too hateful, but if it's a solid forest in that mile 900 is the better choice.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Ryan Mano <[email protected]> wrote: > yes pmp 450 AP with pmp450 sm > > this will be installed with some trees in front of it but need to give > them a lot of speeds this is why I chose this...if it doesn't work ill jest > give then a 900 and end all these problems > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Prince < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 11:52 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 > > First. > > The AP is a PMP450 AP. Correct? > > Second. > > The SM is a PMP450 SM. Correct? > > Define "trees". I have a rule that we do not even attempt any 5 GHz > devices through trees. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 2/2/2016 8:50 AM, Ryan Mano wrote: > > am waiting on another sm I really think I have a bad sm > > am doing all what you guys are saying and nothing > > can the 450 shoot though some trees of does it need line of site > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: George Skorup <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > Date: 2016-02-01 8:53 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 > > Are you talking about the Cambium 60 degree sector that has the third > connector for FSK (in the middle I think)? Or did you just put the FSK AP > on the vertical port for testing before swapping to the 450 AP? > > It will sit at 8X/1X QPSK MIMO-A while scanning to listen for beacons, so > that is normal. I think you need to figure out why the SM can't hear the AP > at range. Could be bad/damaged SM or AP. Do you have another SM or AP to > try? Or RF pigtails between the AP and antenna. Easy way to get some idea > of what's going on is to run the spectrum analyzer on the AP. Does it see > anything at all? > > On 2/1/2016 6:40 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: > > It registers 12 feet in front of the AP at 8x/1x…if I point at it 1 mile > down the road it will not link just says scanning > > > > I only enable the freq that the ap is using and unchecked all the > rest…this is what I meant by isolating > > AP eval shows nothing at 1 mile mark but close up it shows > > > > So from what you guys are saying the first 8x means what the sm is capable > of doing and the second number 1x is actual speed? > > > > So if it registers at 1x…12feet in from the of ap then it would make sense > that it would not see anything if I try it at a mile > > Guess I will have to pass traffic through it to see if it works from what > you guys are telling me > > > > I know for a fact that the sector antenna works because I attached a > pmp100 AP to it and that registered without any issues…do you think me > plugging a pmp100 into the sector antenna would cause this? > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2016 5:09 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 > > > > OK, then it's not what I was thinking. If you had software on them older > than 13.2 I believe, and you also had an AP where the factory reversed the > pigtails internally, your beacons would end up on horizontal instead of > vertical and the SM probably wouldn't hear it. > > You say you're getting 8X/1X but it's also not registering. That does not > compute. As other have suggested, try locking down the SM's scan list to > the exact frequency and channel bandwidth that the AP is on. Tone alignment > helps. If you can get a laptop, tablet, phone, etc. and look at the Tools > > AP Eval page on the SM, does anything show up there? That's one of the > first things our techs are supposed to do when troubleshooting on-site. If > it's obviously not an alignment issue, log in and look at the AP eval. > > On 2/1/2016 3:46 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: > > Running 5.7 software ver 14.1.1 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2016 4:42 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 > > > > There still seems to be some misconception on this. 8X/1X means that it's > 8X capable / 1X current. It's always going to show 8X capable (or 2X for > FSK, 3X for 430). After the / is what you need to pay attention to. Also, > the uplink and downlink are independent. On the AP session status page > (power tab), that's the downlink rate to that SM. On the SM main page, link > status, etc., that's the uplink rate to the AP. > > What band is this? 2.4, 3.6, 5.4 or 5.7? And what software version do you > have on the radios? It'd be best to stick with 13.2.1 for now. > > For the longest time I too thought this was backwards. I assure you it's > correct. > > On 2/1/2016 2:26 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: > > 8x down 1x up > > > > this is the first sm am trying to install on it > > > > > > the freq am on is very clean not sure what the problem is....unless am > missing a setting? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Af <[email protected]> <[email protected]> on behalf of > Josh Luthman <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2016 3:17 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 > > > > Signals on each side? > > > > 8x down 1x up? Could be an uplink path issue or heavy interference at the > AP side. Have you changed frequencies? Spectrum analysis? Is this the > first SM on the AP? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Ryan Mano <[email protected]> > wrote: > > am new to the pmp450 looks straight forward but am having issues > registering it from a distance > > > > when I point the sm which is 12 feet in front of the ap it syncs 8x by 1x > ...but if I go 1mile down the road it doesn't register at all > > > > not sure what am doing wrong...has anyone had this similar issue like this? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
