The runners use carpet on feet in effort to throw off trackers. No Jihadist training camps....just drug cartel messing with everyone. I am more concerned about them than ISIL coming here... many sicarios live on this side of the border up and down the valley. On Feb 19, 2016 9:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> I know a border patrol agent, pretty right wing, he claims they are always > finding muslem prayer rugs out in the desert. I find that hard to believe > but I suppose it is possible. If you are that devout why would you leave > your prayer rug? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 8:47 AM > *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet > > > Funny... at meeting last week I attended where XG dude spoke, the HAM club > members were in 70s and White. When ex Col. Coleman spoke about security > some of these guys said ISIS had training camp in Chihuahua! Ha...right > out wacko right wing talk shows. I was taught to respect my elders so I > just listened. > On Feb 19, 2016 8:36 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> Something that has struck me working with some local ham radio clubs is >> not all of these guys know what they are talking about, or follow all the >> rules, especially when it comes to things like WiFi. They love cheap shiny >> crap like everyone else. At first some of them were kind of arrogant, but >> I think when they realize WISPs really are RF experts they get down off >> their high horse and learn a few things from us. (Like a Rocket with an >> omni isn’t the best way to provide WiFi at an outdoor event, and there are >> better ways to feed it than piping your cellular modem into a Linksys >> router.) >> >> Ham radio also has a generation problem, they are mostly old white guys >> with a few younger guys thrown in. Very few millennials and not a very >> diverse bunch. Ham radio is being made obsolete by the Internet, which >> lets you do a lot of the same things like contacting people in other >> countries. We can help them branch out into using the Internet in their >> hobby and being relevant to the next generation. >> >> >> *From:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 7:55 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet >> >> >> I am still curious on why anyone thinks they deserve free stuff because >> they belong to a club. I belong to the club of "I don't want to pay for >> anything". I know, they supposedly have a public emergency benefit. I >> haven't ever seen them be anything more than a murderer in those situations >> but maybe we just have a bunch of HAM dorks around here. >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 7:27 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> I see a bunch of different states listed, so it may be used as the hub, >>> but I'm not familiar with the software. >>> >>> https://www.yaesu.com/jp/en/wires-x/index.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, February 19, 2016 7:20:56 AM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet >>> >>> Hmm he sent a few pictures, does this look like a conference server? >>> >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lm7yqdblb6mri0l/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.16.28.png?dl=0 >>> >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2u283gy05fgt9i/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.18.23.png?dl=0 >>> >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/51jov0xxmybov37/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.19.32.png?dl=0 >>> >>> I have not applied the Google to research that device in the third >>> picture...yet. >>> >>> >>> On 2/19/2016 12:59 AM, Brian Webster wrote: >>> > Unless they are trying to host a voice repeater conference server they >>> do not need anywhere near that kind of bandwidth. A conference server would >>> host multiple connects all at the same time, if they needed 500k per >>> connection that would add up. I would not let them host a conference server >>> on your wireless network, that stuff is better placed in big data centers. >>> > >>> > I am an amateur radio operator and have data and voice networks I >>> maintain for the clubs locally. Honestly 1 to 3 meg is more than enough for >>> what they will need. Anything more than that and they will likely be doing >>> things that they should be paying for on your network. They may be trying >>> to do some live video stuff but you don't need to shoulder that burden, >>> they can do live TV broadcasts on spectrum they have available, not as easy >>> to do as IP cams and Ethernet but they can do it. >>> > >>> > If you have the tower space you might consider offering them places to >>> put their own links if all they need is bandwidth between sites. There are >>> amateur radio spectrum allocations in the 3.3 GHz band as well as 5.9 GHz, >>> and I am pretty sure they can load international firmware and run their own >>> links on MicroTik or Ubiquiti radios. This would keep the traffic off your >>> network and possibly discourage them from putting up links legally licensed >>> in the bands you are using for your business. Technically they have >>> licensed rights and could knock you off the air. Best not to start that >>> war, they can operate in the 900, 2.4 and 5 GHz bands legally at much >>> higher power. If you can get them off on to the spectrum that does not >>> overlap the unlicensed bands everyone wins. They also have their own IPv4 >>> space available (ampr.org). >>> > >>> > Feel free to hit me up off list and/or have them contact me if you >>> need to. I will happily try to explain how they can create win-win for >>> everyone. >>> > >>> > Here is a link to a frequency chart that shows amateur radio licensed >>> allocations. Remember they are considered licensed incumbents and you >>> cannot interfere with their operations. >>> > >>> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/Band%20Chart/Hambands_color.pdf >>> > >>> > >>> > Thank You, >>> > Brian Webster >>> > www.wirelessmapping.com >>> > www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Head >>> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:05 AM >>> > To: af@afmug.com >>> > Subject: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet >>> > >>> > I think a few of the list members out there are HAMs so I need some >>> advice please. >>> > I support our local HAM group and have allowed them to place >>> repeaters on two of my towers at no charge to their group. Now one of their >>> members has asked for Internet service at one of the sites for HAM use. I >>> have heard something about HAMs using the Internet to "talk" so I guess >>> this is not unusual. >>> > For me the kicker is that he is asking for 20x20Mbps service...I >>> certainly have the capacity but that just seems excessive. >>> > Opinions anyone? >>> > >>> >>>
