Good point. I wonder if Trump has thought of that. Mexicans will tunnel under
the wall, ISIS will fly over it. Cue Steppenwolf song.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 11:07 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet
flying carpets
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Yoga mats.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 10:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet
I know a border patrol agent, pretty right wing, he claims they are always
finding muslem prayer rugs out in the desert. I find that hard to believe but
I suppose it is possible. If you are that devout why would you leave your
prayer rug?
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 8:47 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet
Funny... at meeting last week I attended where XG dude spoke, the HAM club
members were in 70s and White. When ex Col. Coleman spoke about security some
of these guys said ISIS had training camp in Chihuahua! Ha...right out wacko
right wing talk shows. I was taught to respect my elders so I just listened.
On Feb 19, 2016 8:36 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Something that has struck me working with some local ham radio clubs is not
all of these guys know what they are talking about, or follow all the rules,
especially when it comes to things like WiFi. They love cheap shiny crap like
everyone else. At first some of them were kind of arrogant, but I think when
they realize WISPs really are RF experts they get down off their high horse and
learn a few things from us. (Like a Rocket with an omni isn’t the best way to
provide WiFi at an outdoor event, and there are better ways to feed it than
piping your cellular modem into a Linksys router.)
Ham radio also has a generation problem, they are mostly old white guys
with a few younger guys thrown in. Very few millennials and not a very diverse
bunch. Ham radio is being made obsolete by the Internet, which lets you do a
lot of the same things like contacting people in other countries. We can help
them branch out into using the Internet in their hobby and being relevant to
the next generation.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet
I am still curious on why anyone thinks they deserve free stuff because
they belong to a club. I belong to the club of "I don't want to pay for
anything". I know, they supposedly have a public emergency benefit. I haven't
ever seen them be anything more than a murderer in those situations but maybe
we just have a bunch of HAM dorks around here.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 7:27 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
I see a bunch of different states listed, so it may be used as the hub,
but I'm not familiar with the software.
https://www.yaesu.com/jp/en/wires-x/index.php
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:20:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet
Hmm he sent a few pictures, does this look like a conference server?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lm7yqdblb6mri0l/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.16.28.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2u283gy05fgt9i/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.18.23.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/51jov0xxmybov37/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.19.32.png?dl=0
I have not applied the Google to research that device in the third
picture...yet.
On 2/19/2016 12:59 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> Unless they are trying to host a voice repeater conference server they
do not need anywhere near that kind of bandwidth. A conference server would
host multiple connects all at the same time, if they needed 500k per connection
that would add up. I would not let them host a conference server on your
wireless network, that stuff is better placed in big data centers.
>
> I am an amateur radio operator and have data and voice networks I
maintain for the clubs locally. Honestly 1 to 3 meg is more than enough for
what they will need. Anything more than that and they will likely be doing
things that they should be paying for on your network. They may be trying to do
some live video stuff but you don't need to shoulder that burden, they can do
live TV broadcasts on spectrum they have available, not as easy to do as IP
cams and Ethernet but they can do it.
>
> If you have the tower space you might consider offering them places to
put their own links if all they need is bandwidth between sites. There are
amateur radio spectrum allocations in the 3.3 GHz band as well as 5.9 GHz, and
I am pretty sure they can load international firmware and run their own links
on MicroTik or Ubiquiti radios. This would keep the traffic off your network
and possibly discourage them from putting up links legally licensed in the
bands you are using for your business. Technically they have licensed rights
and could knock you off the air. Best not to start that war, they can operate
in the 900, 2.4 and 5 GHz bands legally at much higher power. If you can get
them off on to the spectrum that does not overlap the unlicensed bands everyone
wins. They also have their own IPv4 space available (ampr.org).
>
> Feel free to hit me up off list and/or have them contact me if you need
to. I will happily try to explain how they can create win-win for everyone.
>
> Here is a link to a frequency chart that shows amateur radio licensed
allocations. Remember they are considered licensed incumbents and you cannot
interfere with their operations.
>
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/Band%20Chart/Hambands_color.pdf
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Head
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:05 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet
>
> I think a few of the list members out there are HAMs so I need some
advice please.
> I support our local HAM group and have allowed them to place repeaters
on two of my towers at no charge to their group. Now one of their members has
asked for Internet service at one of the sites for HAM use. I have heard
something about HAMs using the Internet to "talk" so I guess this is not
unusual.
> For me the kicker is that he is asking for 20x20Mbps service...I
certainly have the capacity but that just seems excessive.
> Opinions anyone?
>
