Yep... On Feb 25, 2016 6:18 PM, "Brian Webster" <i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
> One of the big reasons amateur radio systems tend to stay on line when all > others fail is due to the simple fact that the amateur radio operators > build and maintain their own networks. Public Safety Systems rely on > commercial contractors to maintain and repair their systems. The agencies > rarely have any good understanding of their systems when there is an outage > and therefore they don’t have ways to overcome the problems. They deal with > this by pouring a lot of money in to redundant and backup systems. In large > scale disasters these commercial repair contracts get spread thin real fast > and have soo many problems to fix all at the same time. > > > > Amateur radio systems have been put together with more creative solutions > that cost little to nothing because it’s an all-volunteer effort. When > things break they don’t just throw money at the problem to fix it. > > > > Jamie, the reason you don’t hear talk of amateur radio systems as shows > like you are at is because they provide services for almost free, that does > not sell equipment and services for the commercial vendors. I am not saying > public safety systems should not have backup systems in place mind you, > just stating the obvious that may not be so obvious to most. If you were > selling stuff to make a living would you tell a potential client how to not > purchase what you are offering? Do you see the cable companies showing > consumers how to get free off the air TV? > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:34 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show > > > > Yes as in anything we have good and not so good...my point was that HAM > folks have had systems operating when no one else did and it makes sense > that emergency agencies have knowledge and relationship with local folks > just in case your state of the art system fails. Look at how thinking out > of the box saved astronauts way back then...or poor analogy...when UFC > first came out...all these high rank black belts got whooped by skinny > juijitsu guy....now they have adapted and evolved...same thing to me...fuck > the politics... make it work. Period > > On Feb 24, 2016 8:46 PM, "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well it's true there's a huge variety of people and experience in the ham > community, it's certain there will be some that suck, and so it's a risk > getting involved without good research first. > > But in general, they - or I should say us hams- have a very nice > combination of tower sites, active hardware, spare hardware, RF knowledge > and eagerness for community service so as to respond rapidly in any > situation. > > I just hope more hams will evolve from old voice / kilobit-speed packet > networks to new 2.3 / 5.9ghz IP systems so as to keep pushing boundaries > and advancing the hobby. > > On Feb 24, 2016 9:00 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > I'm guessing Lewis and one or two others have had some sort of bad dealing > with a HAM and now hate the all forever for any impractical reason. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:33:56 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show > > FirstNet is a joke. Hardly anyone has reached DHS' level 6 > interoperability and they are going to replace all that hardware at a cost > by some estimates of over $10 billion.There have been several hair brained > schemes to pay for it but nobody has proposed a plan that is likely to > succeed. The only viable option seems to let the carriers do it. Great, > just what we need: a public safety system with all the reliability of our > cell systems. > > Back on the HAM topic huh? The reason they don't like running exercises > with them is that they are a crap shoot. Some are great, some are complete > jokes. Nobody wants to be graded with the wildcard in the mix. > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:34 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > well I attended some interesting sessions. The Public safety one had > several speakers from industry , gov't and academia... > > Learned allot and will share some important items later but I asked a > question that really caught them off guard.....there was no mention of any > testing or work on their disaster scenarios which involved HAM radio guys. > One of the members acknowledged that during Katrina and Bastrop > emergencies...the HAM radio network was the only available in many places > and then asked why they never mentioned using 4.9 GHz but only 2.4 and > 5GHz...mu ch more to come about First Net and testing to be done on > dangerous border.....Canada and US is April. > > Lots of stuff to share and some new antenna players I never saw before. > > Met Sakid Ahmed from Cambium and chatted for an hour ...learned some cool > things.. > > Well late lunch and Tecate beckons....chime in later,,,,,talk amongst > yourselves..topic is LMR over IP and IoT.... > > laters > > > Jaime Solorza > > Wireless Systems Architect > > 915-861-1390 > > >
