Couldn't agree more....BS meter going off the scale. I tend to try to follow a variety of sources and my gf, who is 10x more sensitive to this stuff than i am, still calls me an idiot....if I'm "to the right", she is way over there off the shoulder....
and i'm actually more in the turn lane... lol ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh Reynolds To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan Every poll has him losing the Presidential election. There's plenty of time for things to change, Clinton still has time for court, and Trump still has time to release his tax records. On Mar 13, 2016 7:56 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: I don’t know Rick Perry very well, seems more like doofus to me, not a leader. And I listen to everybody, but the constant B.S. just puts me off. Now that I’ve seen how the sausage is made, my B.S. detector is on overly sensitive. Still, everything comes back to the what’s good for the country and what makes me worry more than anything is that I don’t see either party putting country first. I think that is now going to be left in the hands of the citizens and right now, I think Donald Trump. If I’m wrong, I’ll come out and apologize next year. But if I’m right, we all win. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:47 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan Rick is a prick...my ex wife is a Perry and she told me that 20 years ago...funny no one caught my calling Rubio and Cruz coconuts.....in 70s you would not missed that... Like i recommended ..stop watching Fox and listening to Rush Limbo....sas..too easy On Mar 13, 2016 6:20 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: The guy who did the video is only charged with a felon on the act of recording, not what he recorded which was still true. They were selling body parts. They aren’t getting him on doctoring a video, they are getting him because it’s illegal for one person to record a conversation. It’s kind of like when they audited Ben Carson or when the indicted D’Souza, total political bullshit. Then when they don’t indict Hillary for far worse on many fronts, Sharpton, Black Panthers, the IRS, etc…, you can see the corruption in the Justice Department so don’t go buy the fact someone is being indicted. Heck, Rick Perry was under an illegal indictment by the Democrats that finally got thrown out of court. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 3:57 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan The videos were edited...guys who did it facing charges in Houston. That said I am anti abortion. As a Catholic but more as a caring human being. Many gay couples are good parents...and some stay together longer than traditional couples.... we need better parenting.....its hard for parents to compete with all the electronics that our children can see and hear. I get upset that one of grandsons is allowed to watch Walking Dead crap. He is 4....when they are here I make sure they don't watch crap like that...even Nick has stupid cartoons. I digress.... too many people having kids that have no idea of what it takes.... Why dont you GOPers get Ryan to run? Oh wait... he said no! Too easy....sorry.. OK how about Mitt? Oops my bad.. On Mar 13, 2016 4:41 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> wrote: Yah, i'm kind of like Chuck here. I don't care about gay marriage. I'm not gay, I know a handful of gay people. Not my cup of tea but the government doesn't have any right telling them what they can or can't do. Same with adoption for a gay couple - shut up gov'mt. Now, I'm not so sure on that. When I was growing up there were few gay couples who had "come out" and we thought if the girl had a different last name than her mommy we thought that was odd. Quite a bit different now but it could still screw with a kids head in terms of "traditional marriage". It would be hard to NOT state that traditional marriage has gone to hell in this country. But then again, so many "traditional" things have gone to hell. How many women stay at home and take care of the family while dad goes to work? I am in favor of defunding planned parenthood. The videos pretty much got to me. It's MY TAX DOLLARS. Defund it. There are plenty of other non-government-funded entities who can do that work. Any tax is bad :) I'm going to stop there, i will get in trouble... lol ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh Reynolds To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan His stances: Gay marriage is wrong He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple Defund planned parenthood Raising corporate tax is bad Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles. Wants to drill in ANWR Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy. Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees. Votes for PATRIOT act over and over Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us citizens Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child healthcare "Let's build a fence!" Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received hospital treatment Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me. On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: Hey, I said I liked him. Just not full on man crush. I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed. There were some missing pages where magic happened to balance the budget. Seemed like the same old voodoo economics. So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin? At least Putin is supposedly an 8th degree black belt. He would probably take care of the protester himself. If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of the world, I’m not so sure. I think McCain could take him in a fair fight. Hell, Bernie could probably take him. I was never fond of Nixon, but the photo of the “kitchen debate” with Khrushchev is a treasure. http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he appeared on the national stage. Very impressed with him. Could almost call him my "man crush". I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about him Ken. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hohhof To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More AfterChicago Violence I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with them, I'm not convinced it's about left or right. If I had to single out one person as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it would be Mitch McConnell. All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about their own power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch. I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, but I like what he has said since being elected Speaker. I would like to see if they are just words, or if he would translate them into actions. I don't think we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered him irrelevant. And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with someone actually interested in governing. I wonder what conservative goals could have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to make Obama fail no matter how much damage it causes. Tort reform? Modifications to Obamacare? Fix sequestration? Tax reform? Immigration reform? Mitch doesn't care. Mitch cares about Mitch. That's the problem with the establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and staying in power, they don't even pretend to do their job. And let me be clear, I'm not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just McConnell is the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I feel he is giving me the finger. I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, but I don't think we'll find out. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More After Chicago Violence IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the right. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. Everybody's idea > of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a deal.
