The guy who did the video is only charged with a felon on the act of recording, 
not what he recorded which was still true.  They were selling body parts.  They 
aren’t getting him on doctoring a video, they are getting him because it’s 
illegal for one person to record a conversation.  It’s kind of like when they 
audited Ben Carson or when the indicted D’Souza, total political bullshit.  
Then when they don’t indict Hillary for far worse on many fronts, Sharpton, 
Black Panthers, the IRS, etc…, you can see the corruption in the Justice 
Department so don’t go buy the fact someone is being indicted.   Heck, Rick 
Perry was under an illegal indictment by the Democrats that finally got thrown 
out of court.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 3:57 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan


The videos were edited...guys who did it facing charges in Houston. That said I 
am anti abortion.  As a Catholic but more as a caring human being.

Many gay couples are good parents...and some stay together longer than 
traditional couples.... we need better parenting.....its hard for parents to 
compete with all the electronics that our children can see and hear.  I get 
upset that one of grandsons is allowed to watch Walking Dead crap.  He is 
4....when they are here I make sure they don't watch crap like that...even Nick 
has stupid cartoons.   I digress.... too many people having kids that have no 
idea of what it takes....

Why dont  you GOPers get Ryan to run?  Oh wait... he said no!    Too 
easy....sorry.. OK how about Mitt?  Oops my bad..
On Mar 13, 2016 4:41 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

Yah, i'm kind of like Chuck here.

I don't care about gay marriage.  I'm not gay, I know a handful of gay people.  
Not my cup of tea but the government doesn't have any right telling them what 
they can or can't do.

Same with adoption for a gay couple - shut up gov'mt.   Now, I'm not so sure on 
that.  When I was growing up there were few gay couples who had "come out" and 
we thought if the girl had a different last name than her mommy we thought that 
was odd.  Quite a bit different now but it could still screw with a kids head 
in terms of "traditional marriage".

It would be hard to NOT state that traditional marriage has gone to hell in 
this country.  But then again, so many "traditional" things have gone to hell.  
How many women stay at home and take care of the family while dad goes to work?

I am in favor of defunding planned parenthood.  The videos pretty much got to 
me.  It's MY TAX DOLLARS.  Defund it.  There are plenty of other 
non-government-funded entities who can do that work.

Any tax is bad :)

I'm going to stop there, i will get in trouble... lol




----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Reynolds<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan


His stances:
Gay marriage is wrong
He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple
Defund planned parenthood
Raising corporate tax is bad
Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles.
Wants to drill in ANWR
Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy.
Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees.
Votes for PATRIOT act over and over
Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us citizens
Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child healthcare
"Let's build a fence!"
Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received hospital 
treatment

Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me.
On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> 
wrote:
Hey, I said I liked him.  Just not full on man crush.

I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed.  There were 
some missing pages where magic happened to balance the budget.  Seemed like the 
same old voodoo economics.

So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin?  At least Putin is supposedly an 
8th degree black belt.  He would probably take care of the protester himself.  
If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of the world, I’m not so sure.  I think 
McCain could take him in a fair fight.  Hell, Bernie could probably take him.  
I was never fond of Nixon, but the photo of the “kitchen debate” with 
Khrushchev is a treasure.
http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev



From: CBB - Jay Fuller<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan


I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he appeared on the 
national stage.  Very impressed with him.  Could almost call him my "man 
crush".   I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about him Ken.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Hohhof<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More 
AfterChicago Violence

I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with them, I'm
not convinced it's about left or right.  If I had to single out one person
as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it would be Mitch
McConnell.  All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about their own
power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch.

I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, but I like
what he has said since being elected Speaker.  I would like to see if they
are just words, or if he would translate them into actions.  I don't think
we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered him
irrelevant.  And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with someone
actually interested in governing.  I wonder what conservative goals could
have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to make Obama
fail no matter how much damage it causes.  Tort reform?  Modifications to
Obamacare?  Fix sequestration?  Tax reform?  Immigration reform?  Mitch
doesn't care.  Mitch cares about Mitch.  That's the problem with the
establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and staying in
power, they don't even pretend to do their job.  And let me be clear, I'm
not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just McConnell is
the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I feel he is
giving me the finger.

I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, but I don't
think we'll find out.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More After
Chicago Violence

IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the right.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. Everybody's idea
> of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a deal.

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