To quote, "Here in Chicago gang violence is a much bigger problem, but people accept it because mostly the gangs shoot at each other, or bystanders from their own neighborhoods." the LA police would delay responding to gang shootings in East LA so that a few would be killed in this gang fights and have less of them to deal with later. Unfortunately lots of non gang bangers caught in cross fire....same thing with Compton and other places... whether drugs or religion fueled, its wrong.....
Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > Probably 80% of this situation looks just like problems we have in our own > country with poor racially divided neighborhoods that have high > unemployment, gang violence, drug dealers, etc., and maybe 20% looks like > an Islamic extremist connection. Even that connection reminds me of when I > was around 20 years old and had friends who would join cults, luckily most > cults were non-violent, but there was Manson and Jim Jones and David > Koresh. This type of violence, plus youths susceptible to manipulation, > have always been with us (and social media and the Internet make it > easier), but we treat it as a totally new and unique phenomenon because of > the Islamic connection. > > Are these bombers religious zealots going to the mosque, living a devout > life, and harboring a grudge against the west? No - they drink, smoke > weed, deal hashish, they are losers who are manipulated by groups like ISIS. > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322385/Ex-wife-Comptoir-Voltaire-caf-bomber-reveals-jobless-layabout-spent-day-bed-smoking-pot-French-say-blew-mistake-fiddling-suicide-vest.html > > Here in Chicago gang violence is a much bigger problem, but people accept > it because mostly the gangs shoot at each other, or bystanders from their > own neighborhoods. Lately with the police backing off the shootings have > spilled over into the downtown business/shopping/hotel district, which is > causing some alarm. That’s probably the other thing about the terrorist > bombings, if they were just blowing each other up in Molenbeek, people > would not be so alarmed, but they are blowing up airports and night clubs. > > Here’s an article that sums it up nicely, calling them “gangster jihadis”: > > http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35890960 > > > > *From:* Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 10:45 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > Belgium is a small country which has problems with different cultures by > themselfes. > > They are half netherland and half french and a very small part speaks > german. They > > dont speak the same language! They got problems to build a government. > > > > This goes back until 18xx. > > > > Some countries should split and the parts should be part of EU to keep > things together > > without hating each other. > > > > Having an islamistic szene in this situation is a very bad thing as they > have problems enough > > without this nobrainers killing themselfe to kill others. > > > > > > > > *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason McKemie > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 24. März 2016 16:01 > *An:* af@afmug.com > *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > A lot more apparently. Sounds like the Belgians have been brewing > something like this for a while. Pardon the pun, I didn't realize it until > it was already on the screen. They either were willingly looking the other > way while areas of the country were radicalized, or they didn't have the > resources to do anything about it. They were safe from the threat for a > while, but then when they had to crack down due to people from these > neighborhoods committing atrocities elsewhere they were in a very bad place > from a retaliatory perspective. > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think the Israelis are more organized than Belgians. > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 3/22/2016 4:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > One of them was also hurt or almost hurt in the Boston bombing. He is > from my local area. > > Need to pray for the Belgians too. > > And for the leaders of the EU to get a bit more inventive in solutions. > > > > How come this never happens in Israel? > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:00 PM > > *To:* Animal Farm > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > Apparently three Mormon elders and US military family on mission hurt in > bombings... will pray for them... > > On Mar 22, 2016 4:58 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');> wrote: > > Cool > > On Mar 22, 2016 4:57 PM, "Chuck McCown" < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: > > Yeah, the CIA has a “men who stare at goats” division that will help with > that. > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:55 PM > > *To:* Animal Farm > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > Through a medium? > > On Mar 22, 2016 4:52 PM, "Chuck McCown" < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: > > Cruz is doing it too: > > "We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim > neighborhoods before they become radicalized," Cruz said in a statement > Tuesday morning. > > How exactly can you prevent anyone from becoming radicalized with LEA > patrols? That is likely to push someone over the edge into being > radicalized. > > > > I am going to write in Rob Ford. > > > > *From:* Chuck McCown > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:49 PM > > *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > I have heard more reasoned discourse from toothless drunken rednecks > sitting in lawn chairs shooting holes in the rusting car body in their > front yard. > > > > *From:* Chuck McCown > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:45 PM > > *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > “Trump also called into Fox Business Network's Mornings with Maria > Bartiromo saying that the US must have surveillance of Muslims in this > country, particularly at mosques.” > > > > > > Deploy the national guard to mosques? > > Or shall the FBI put bugs and cameras in them all? > > Internment camps is a much better solution... gheeze. > > How do you test for Islam? Big noses? > > > > Follow everyone that buys dates at the supermarket. > > Ban beards? > > > > > > > > From: Jaime Solorza > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:36 PM > > To: Animal Farm > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > > > Yep... I don't revise history... I do not represent any of the > revisionist views from our Texas Board of Education... except maybe > dinosaurs on Noah's Ark...if I am going to be whacko might as well make it > a good one. Sas > > > > On Mar 22, 2016 4:30 PM, "Chuck McCown" < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: > > So were all the early KKK guys democrats? > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:28 PM > > To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > KIND of... > > > > Lincoln actually would have been more of a Democrat. The parties > > actually swapped platforms. > > > > > http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');> wrote: > > Millions being spent by Republicans that don't want Trump....we are just > > amused observers watching you guys destroy Lincoln's party.... by now he is > > spinning in his grave at centrifuge speed. > > > > On Mar 22, 2016 4:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');> wrote: > > > > Wow...an honest observer...kudos > > > > On Mar 22, 2016 3:13 PM, "Sean Heskett" < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us');> wrote: > > > > um those ads with trump's wife were paid for by the romney super pac that > > is trying to stop trump...not the left, unless you go too far right that > you > > swing all the way around to the left lol. > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:43 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thatoneguyst...@gmail.com');> wrote: > > > > I do like the insult the anti trump movement perpetrated on the mormons > > with the ad featuring his wife nude. Pandering at its finest, shows the > left > > views mormons as one step above an amoeba in terms of intellect. > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Jeremy < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeremysmi...@gmail.com');> wrote: > > > > You could always vote for Bernie. ;) > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Steve < > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@wavedirect.org');> wrote: > > > > Well you guys get to vote for a career criminal / pathological liar > > or a sociopath narcissist. > > > > God have mercy on us all. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Darren Shea" <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','darr...@ecpi.com');> > > To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:19:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > We need a "None of the Above" option - if that's the winner, not a > > single one of the candidates who appeared on the ballot for that race are > > eligible to run in the follow-up election. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] On > Behalf Of Jay Weekley > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:15 AM > > To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah > > > > Could we be the non vocal majority or are we just the relative few > > that think we're in for a long four years at least? If I am interviewing > > candidates for a job and don't like any of the candidates I reopen the > > process and get more applications. To bad we can't do that in politics. > > > > Chuck McCown wrote: > > > AMEN! > > > *From:* Lewis Bergman <mailto: > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lewis.berg...@gmail.com');> > > > > > > Again, it is hard to believe that the field, both sides, is the > best > > > this country can do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
