For sure On Apr 4, 2016 4:31 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
> I often tell my wife.... > > If the women of the world stopped buying shoes and clothes for 3 months, > there will be a total world wide economic collapse ! > > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Monday, April 4, 2016 3:58:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? > > Ha > On Apr 4, 2016 1:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I told my wife this morning that I am going to have to find a rehab >> center for an Amazon addict. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:47 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> >> My wife always complains that I don't need more tools I respond... when >> you stop buying shoes, I will stop buying tools...she gives me the death >> stare. >> On Apr 4, 2016 1:44 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: >> >>> Chuck, somehow you remind me of my business partner.... who goes looking >>> for projects, cause they are a perfect opportunity to collect (buy) more >>> tools... one can never have enough tools ! >>> >>> (He is more into power tools, construction, mechanical etc ...) >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Monday, April 4, 2016 3:36:59 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >>> I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits. >>> >>> Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity. >>> (It also does the actual cable continuity tests too). >>> >>> I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325 >>> >>> *From:* Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >>> Sorry to be late to the party. ;-) >>> >>> I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at >>> high speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming >>> you have enough computer to push the required speeds. However iperf3 >>> cannot yet do bi-di tests. >>> >>> For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be >>> pretty good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it >>> is better. Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up >>> especially if you try random data. >>> >>> Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Hal >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises >>>> made. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does >>>> not meet marketing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing. >>>> Seeing is believing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ken Hohhof >>>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08 >>>> *An:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild! Did >>>> you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection? >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am >>>> having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my >>>> posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in >>>> regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking >>>> about. I also apologized for this being a personality defect in myself. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in >>>> the forums. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you >>>> specifically asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from >>>> very particular pieces of equipment..... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great >>>> attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change >>>> for the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default >>>> presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on >>>> us'..... along with it also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and >>>> or their representatives the technical questions before coming to the open >>>> forums and taking an opinion poll.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ok, I will now get off my soap box. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> >>>> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work >>>> there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted >>>> explanation of what FDD and TDD are. >>>> >>>> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a >>>> newly released PTP bridge radio? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need for the >>>> cloak and dagger ... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------- >>>> >>>> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a >>>> full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies >>>> for transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive >>>> direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the >>>> microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are: >>>> >>>> ----------------- >>>> >>>> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex >>>> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and >>>> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is >>>> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to >>>> microwave communication are: >>>> >>>> ------------------ >>>> >>>> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give >>>> this away ! ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware >>>> updates. The published specs are 'conservative'. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think >>>> you will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing >>>> them to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market >>>> place. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Anything else you would like to know ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Feel free to ask...... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company >>>> (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of >>>> the product... There is something about the tone of your question that is >>>> rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I >>>> normally expect the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question >>>> directly, and only if that is not answered or if the answer is not straight >>>> forward then it is ok to imply some intentional obfuscation..... not the >>>> other way around ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> >>>> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with >>>> existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions. >>>> >>>> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say >>>> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these >>>> radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times... >>>> >>>> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg >>>> x 500meg performance.) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is >>>> showing 700meg x 700meg performance.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the >>>> specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple >>>> laptop of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or >>>> someone will be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as >>>> it is .... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM >>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> >>>> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet? Preferably >>>> with something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged >>>> into each end. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >
