I gotta see when the next Ideal sale is. :-)
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*From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, April 4, 2016 2:36:59 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits.
Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity.
(It also does the actual cable continuity tests too).
I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325
*From:* Harold Bledsoe <mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
Sorry to be late to the party. ;-)
I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at
high speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better
assuming you have enough computer to push the required speeds. However
iperf3 cannot yet do bi-di tests.
For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be
pretty good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but
then it is better. Beware using btest - it uses a single core and
can't keep up especially if you try random data.
Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits.
Thanks,
-Hal
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net
<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the
promises made.
We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth
does not meet marketing.
So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf
testing. Seeing is believing.
*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *Im Auftrag von *Ken Hohhof
*Gesendet:* Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08
*An:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very
mild! Did you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls
Presidential Collection?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY
*From:*Faisal Imtiaz <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>
*Sent:*Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email....
I am having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were
to look at my posts you will also see that I have expressed
similar feelings to others in regards to how they ask the
question... irrespective of who they are asking about. I also
apologized for this being a personality defect in myself.
The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk
in the forums.
There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you
specifically asked for the test to be run in a very particular
way, from very particular pieces of equipment.....
My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great
attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to
change for the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the
default presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull
a fast one on us'..... along with it also having enough fortitude
to asking the MFG and or their representatives the technical
questions before coming to the open forums and taking an opinion
poll....
ok, I will now get off my soap box.
Regards
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
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*From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com
<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and
doesn't work there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a
copied and pasted explanation of what FDD and TDD are.
How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf
tests on a newly released PTP bridge radio?
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>>
wrote:
like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need
for the cloak and dagger ...
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Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for
establishing a full-duplex communications link that uses
two different radio frequencies for transmitter and
receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive
direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency
offset. In the microwave realm, the primary advantages of
this approach are:
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NO THEY ARE NOT FDD.
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Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating
full-duplex communication over a half-duplex communication
link. The transmitter and receiver both use the same
frequency but transmit and receive traffic is switched in
time. The primary advantages of this approach as it
applies to microwave communication are:
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YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should
have give this away ! )
Like all new products, they are making improvements with
firmware updates. The published specs are 'conservative'.
These are the first radios of their kind in the market
place... I think you will need to modify your thinking
about them, cause you keep comparing them to the other
existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place.
Anything else you would like to know ?
Feel free to ask......
BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece
of the company (would love to buy stock in them if I
could). I am on the beta testers of the product... There
is something about the tone of your question that is
rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over
reacting...... I normally expect the proper professional
decorum to be.. ask the question directly, and only if
that is not answered or if the answer is not straight
forward then it is ok to imply some intentional
obfuscation..... not the other way around !
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
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*From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com
<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to
compare them with existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions.
The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but
nowhere does it say specifically if they're FDD or TDD
in the 60 GHz band:
http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net
<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove
with such a test ?
Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how
it is run....
Are you asking the question 'How much data I can
push thru with these radios ?'..... the question
has been answered multiple times...
the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex,
thus giving you 500meg x 500meg performance.)
The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the
latest firmware is showing 700meg x 700meg
performance....
What is the problem with this ? if you think
Ignite is lying about the specs, buy a pair, do
the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple
laptop of your choice and if you don't like them,
send them back !... or someone will be happy to
buy them from you ... they are in short supply as
it is ....
:)
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
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*From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com
<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf
tests?
Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf
test yet? Preferably with something like a
Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux
plugged into each end.
