At any frequency.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 12:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP
At 100 GHz?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Open waveguides have about 10 dB gain and about a 50 degree pattern.
*From:* Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>
*Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 10:47 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP
I like the horn design because they're very clean as far as
antenna coverage goes, and they're also good for covering both
close in customers as well as several miles out. Much better than
a standard sector.
Also they're small "A F", but solidly built. Low wind load means
you can put more of them on a micropop 25G.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
People seem to forget that gain is inversely proportional to
coverage area. A sector that moves the vertical beamwidth from
4 degrees to 90 degrees will have a very detrimental effect on
gain.
That said, the lack of gain everywhere outside of the intended
area is non-existent, meaning much lower noise.
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*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Friday, April 15, 2016 11:32:11 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP
They're great for 802.11ac style micropops
Good vertical coverage though, much better than a sector. Clean
beamwidth / edges.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> It's another option anyway =)
>
> I'm kind of liking the horn antenna, but the gain is low. A
90* is only
> 10dbi but a 40* is 16dbi. Or the 50* at 14dbi.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jeremy
<jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Nevermind, I missed the "short of buying a connectorized
AP" part. Also,
>> these are small in physical size, but not so much in beamwidth.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy
<jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> AM-M-V5G-TI
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Gino Villarini
<ginovi...@gmail.com <mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ebay is your friend
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini
<ginovi...@gmail.com <mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> blessed that you can use 40 mhz...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those only have 100mbps ethernet, correct? On a 40mhz
channel they
>>>>>> can do 180mbps+ aggregate which is why I've been using
the Force110 for the
>>>>>> little sites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/15/2016 11:04 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you dont need gps syc, just do a Epmp 1000 integrated...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Force 180. It's more gain, very narrow azimuth (great
for a CPE).
>>>>>>> It's the same thing turned 90*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Brian Sullivan
>>>>>>> <installe...@foxvalley.net
<mailto:installe...@foxvalley.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess I fell asleep at the ePMP wheel, why would
they EOL these?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:30 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We bought a bunch of integrated 5GHz radios and keep
them in a safe
>>>>>>>>> place for this very reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a small AP
antenna? Previously
>>>>>>>>>> with Ubnt we would do an NSM5. This would give us
45*. The use case is
>>>>>>>>>> just to service a few homes around the corner from
the trees.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The original integrated radios are 30* but they're
EOLed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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