At 100 GHz?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
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Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Open waveguides have about 10 dB gain and about a 50 degree pattern.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 10:47 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP
>
> I like the horn design because they're very clean as far as antenna
> coverage goes, and they're also good for covering both close in customers
> as well as several miles out. Much better than a standard sector.
>
> Also they're small "A F", but solidly built. Low wind load means you can
> put more of them on a micropop 25G.
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> People seem to forget that gain is inversely proportional to coverage
>> area. A sector that moves the vertical beamwidth from 4 degrees to 90
>> degrees will have a very detrimental effect on gain.
>>
>> That said, the lack of gain everywhere outside of the intended area is
>> non-existent, meaning much lower noise.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, April 15, 2016 11:32:11 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP
>>
>>
>> They're great for 802.11ac style micropops
>>
>> Good vertical coverage though, much better than a sector. Clean
>> beamwidth / edges.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>> > It's another option anyway =)
>> >
>> > I'm kind of liking the horn antenna, but the gain is low.  A 90* is only
>> > 10dbi but a 40* is 16dbi.  Or the 50* at 14dbi.
>> >
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Nevermind, I missed the "short of buying a connectorized AP" part.
>> Also,
>> >> these are small in physical size, but not so much in beamwidth.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> AM-M-V5G-TI
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ebay is your friend
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini <
>> ginovi...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> blessed that you can use 40 mhz...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Those only have 100mbps ethernet, correct?  On a 40mhz channel they
>> >>>>>> can do 180mbps+ aggregate which is why I've been using the
>> Force110 for the
>> >>>>>> little sites.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 4/15/2016 11:04 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If you dont need gps syc, just do a Epmp 1000 integrated...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman
>> >>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Force 180.  It's more gain, very narrow azimuth (great for a CPE).
>> >>>>>>> It's the same thing turned 90*.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>> >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>> >>>>>>> Suite 1337
>> >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Brian Sullivan
>> >>>>>>> <installe...@foxvalley.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I guess I fell asleep at the ePMP wheel, why would they EOL
>> these?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:30 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> We bought a bunch of integrated 5GHz radios and keep them in a
>> safe
>> >>>>>>>>> place for this very reason.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a small AP antenna?
>> Previously
>> >>>>>>>>>> with Ubnt we would do an NSM5.  This would give us 45*.  The
>> use case is
>> >>>>>>>>>> just to service a few homes around the corner from the trees.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> The original integrated radios are 30* but they're EOLed
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
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