At 100 GHz?
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Open waveguides have about 10 dB gain and about a 50 degree pattern. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 10:47 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP > > I like the horn design because they're very clean as far as antenna > coverage goes, and they're also good for covering both close in customers > as well as several miles out. Much better than a standard sector. > > Also they're small "A F", but solidly built. Low wind load means you can > put more of them on a micropop 25G. > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> People seem to forget that gain is inversely proportional to coverage >> area. A sector that moves the vertical beamwidth from 4 degrees to 90 >> degrees will have a very detrimental effect on gain. >> >> That said, the lack of gain everywhere outside of the intended area is >> non-existent, meaning much lower noise. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, April 15, 2016 11:32:11 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP >> >> >> They're great for 802.11ac style micropops >> >> Good vertical coverage though, much better than a sector. Clean >> beamwidth / edges. >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> > It's another option anyway =) >> > >> > I'm kind of liking the horn antenna, but the gain is low. A 90* is only >> > 10dbi but a 40* is 16dbi. Or the 50* at 14dbi. >> > >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Nevermind, I missed the "short of buying a connectorized AP" part. >> Also, >> >> these are small in physical size, but not so much in beamwidth. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> AM-M-V5G-TI >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> ebay is your friend >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini < >> ginovi...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> blessed that you can use 40 mhz... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com >> > >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Those only have 100mbps ethernet, correct? On a 40mhz channel they >> >>>>>> can do 180mbps+ aggregate which is why I've been using the >> Force110 for the >> >>>>>> little sites. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 4/15/2016 11:04 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> If you dont need gps syc, just do a Epmp 1000 integrated... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman >> >>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Force 180. It's more gain, very narrow azimuth (great for a CPE). >> >>>>>>> It's the same thing turned 90*. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >> >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >> >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >> >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Brian Sullivan >> >>>>>>> <installe...@foxvalley.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I guess I fell asleep at the ePMP wheel, why would they EOL >> these? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:30 PM, George Skorup wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> We bought a bunch of integrated 5GHz radios and keep them in a >> safe >> >>>>>>>>> place for this very reason. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a small AP antenna? >> Previously >> >>>>>>>>>> with Ubnt we would do an NSM5. This would give us 45*. The >> use case is >> >>>>>>>>>> just to service a few homes around the corner from the trees. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> The original integrated radios are 30* but they're EOLed >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> > >