OPM other people's money

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On May 3, 2016 6:28 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:

> That's a nice developer!  By them lots of drinks and steak dinners.  If
> you don't have the $150-$200k handy, beg, borrow or steal it.  Preferably
> not borrow... that hurts your return for the term of the loan.  But it's
> still worth it for an asset that will be performing 100 years from now.
>
> On 5/3/16 3:23 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> As for ROI the developer wants to give us an exclusive right and not put
> in copper for phone or TV ;) The take rate should be pretty high because
> their other option will be our wireless service.
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> You will probably get 80% if you are the best value.
>> And you don’t the full costs for homes that don’t take the service.  No
>> CPE, no enclosure, no drop, no sfp.
>>
>> Say $2500/customer.
>>
>> Say you clear $40/month.
>>
>> 40*12=480
>> 480/2500 = 19.2%  return from day one forever.
>>
>> What kind of mutual fund will give you a return like that?
>>
>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:10 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build
>>
>> That math assumes an immediate 100% takeup rate...
>>
>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> 1630/65 = 25
>>>
>>> Internet isn't going away, it's like water and power.  The next 25
>>> months and the 25 months after that...
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't see how the math works (at $150k and 92 homes) if the cost per
>>>> unit served is $1630 per house. And your initial penetration rate will be
>>>> far, far less than 100% of homes for monthly services. Even after 3-4 years
>>>> a significant percentage may never sign up. Where's the ROI?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Figure one handhole per 2 homes.  So 46 handholes.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.25” between all handholes.
>>>>> .75” duct from each handhole to each dwelling for drops.
>>>>> You can run 144 count fiber for spares.
>>>>> Drop down to 96 or 48 count as it tapers going down the runs.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will need a cabinet with a distribution panel, electronics,
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>> It will need power.
>>>>>
>>>>> To go cheap, use a large cisco router with SFPs ports and SFP to each
>>>>> dwelling with a media converter at the ends.
>>>>> Or put in Calix.  You can go GPON or Active.  With something this
>>>>> small, I would do Active.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will have $150 to $200K in before you are done.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Sean Heskett
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:38 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] potential FTTH build
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are in talks with a developer who is planning a subdivision on a
>>>>> ~50 acre lot for 92 homes and he wants us to deliver FTTH.  Is there 
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> on this list who would like to consult with us so that we can get the plan
>>>>> done right from the get go?  The developer will be doing all the trenching
>>>>> and conduit etc., we will be doing all the electronics and customer 
>>>>> service
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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