I think all the negativity speaks for itself LOL. When running my WISP, I had them for a year, and it sucked. The congestion in CHI was terrible. Now I am not sure that is a problem in CHI any longer, but that was my experience 3 years ago. On the Fusion network we use Telia as our primary Full route provider, we pop out multiple DIAs from them. We have a really good relationship with them and can talk to decision makers in the US. You don't get the "Upper management is not going to do it" scenario, I have heard that line from Cogent to many times. They do have persistent sales people, I think they contact me once a month. Every company is going to have some issue, but it seems like Cogent continuously gets a bad wrap.
Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I think you need some BGP tweaks to better take advantage of Cogent, given > the scale of their network. > > http://bgp.he.net/report/peers > http://as-rank.caida.org/ > http://research.dyn.com/2016/04/a-bakers-dozen-2015-edition/ > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 7:23:50 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cogent > > That number of directly connected customers is dropping … we used to buy > transit from them a number of years back – a lot of issues with routing in > different regions, mainly in the US … then we dropped their transit and > peered with them on PNI’s. The traffic (which is only their on-net traffic > to be specific) hasn’t changed much in last couple of years, I think it’s > actually dropped some – but regardless it accounts for only 3% of our > traffic in total …. > > > > Paul > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz > *Sent:* July 2, 2016 2:04 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent > > > > Cogent is great as long as you have another peer to balance out “issues”. > They have a shitload of the internet as directly connected customers. > > > > -PK > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2016 6:44 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent > > > > Location does make a big difference. I would in no way use them for a > single upstream. For one, Cogent doesn't have the entire IPv6 Internet. > They are great in a mix, especially if you have a route management platform > or take only customer routes. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: > http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png] > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: > http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: > http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image: > http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image: > http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: > http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cogent > > Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, > ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well. > > > > -Jason > > > >