Quite interested in hearing more about that… we are seeing very aggressive pricing from them that’s better than HE and others …. But not using them at this point. When a couple of contracts start to run out with some other transit providers we were considering looking at them although our transit traffic continues to decline at a very noticeable rate
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: July 2, 2016 11:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent The number of large outages Telia has had in the US in the past few months is staggering. They are trying really hard to get business right now though, and their price reflects it. On Jul 2, 2016 8:40 AM, "Erich Kaiser" <er...@northcentraltower.com <mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com> > wrote: I think all the negativity speaks for itself LOL. When running my WISP, I had them for a year, and it sucked. The congestion in CHI was terrible. Now I am not sure that is a problem in CHI any longer, but that was my experience 3 years ago. On the Fusion network we use Telia as our primary Full route provider, we pop out multiple DIAs from them. We have a really good relationship with them and can talk to decision makers in the US. You don't get the "Upper management is not going to do it" scenario, I have heard that line from Cogent to many times. They do have persistent sales people, I think they contact me once a month. Every company is going to have some issue, but it seems like Cogent continuously gets a bad wrap. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com <mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com> Office: 630-621-4804 <tel:630-621-4804> Cell: 630-777-9291 <tel:630-777-9291> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: I think you need some BGP tweaks to better take advantage of Cogent, given the scale of their network. http://bgp.he.net/report/peers http://as-rank.caida.org/ http://research.dyn.com/2016/04/a-bakers-dozen-2015-edition/ ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 7:23:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent That number of directly connected customers is dropping … we used to buy transit from them a number of years back – a lot of issues with routing in different regions, mainly in the US … then we dropped their transit and peered with them on PNI’s. The traffic (which is only their on-net traffic to be specific) hasn’t changed much in last couple of years, I think it’s actually dropped some – but regardless it accounts for only 3% of our traffic in total …. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: July 2, 2016 2:04 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent Cogent is great as long as you have another peer to balance out “issues”. They have a shitload of the internet as directly connected customers. -PK From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:44 PM To: <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent Location does make a big difference. I would in no way use them for a single upstream. For one, Cogent doesn't have the entire IPv6 Internet. They are great in a mix, especially if you have a route management platform or take only customer routes. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Jason McKemie" < <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cogent Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well. -Jason
