Looking back at RFO from past 30 days one of the outages was a fiber cut in
Texas, just FYI.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
wrote:

> Yep they have had a few hiccups, but overall very happy with them.  As I
> said, "Every company is going to have some issue, but it seems like
> Cogent continuously gets a bad wrap."   This is also why we try to offload
> most major content via peering exchanges instead of using transit provider
> to get to it.
>
> In my 15 years as a WISP, I had probably around 7 different upstreams,
> each had its own caveat.
>
> This is getting off topic but a large industry pressing issue is Fiber
> Cuts...  Since building the Fusion network the last year and a half, and
> now being national in the US, we have learned a lot about fiber cuts.
> Anything is possible.  Is it me or are the contractors more careless than
> ever, or maybe it is the locator services?    Texas seems to have the worst
> track record so far.
>
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The number of large outages Telia has had in the US in the past few
>> months is staggering.
>>
>> They are trying really hard to get business right now though, and their
>> price reflects it.
>> On Jul 2, 2016 8:40 AM, "Erich Kaiser" <er...@northcentraltower.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think all the negativity speaks for itself LOL.  When running my WISP,
>>> I had them for a year, and it sucked.  The congestion in CHI was terrible.
>>> Now I am not sure that is a problem in CHI any longer, but that was my
>>> experience 3 years ago.   On the Fusion network we use Telia as our primary
>>> Full route provider, we pop out multiple DIAs from them.  We have a really
>>> good relationship with them and can talk to decision makers in the US.  You
>>> don't get the "Upper management is not going to do it" scenario, I have
>>> heard that line from Cogent to many times.  They do have persistent sales
>>> people, I think they contact me once a month.  Every company is going to
>>> have some issue, but it seems like Cogent continuously gets a bad wrap.
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think you need some BGP tweaks to better take advantage of Cogent,
>>>> given the scale of their network.
>>>>
>>>> http://bgp.he.net/report/peers
>>>> http://as-rank.caida.org/
>>>> http://research.dyn.com/2016/04/a-bakers-dozen-2015-edition/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 7:23:50 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
>>>>
>>>> That number of directly connected customers is dropping … we used to
>>>> buy transit from them a number of years back – a lot of issues with routing
>>>> in different regions, mainly in the US … then we dropped their transit and
>>>> peered with them on PNI’s.  The traffic (which is only their on-net traffic
>>>> to be specific) hasn’t changed much in last couple of years, I think it’s
>>>> actually dropped some – but regardless it accounts for only 3% of our
>>>> traffic in total ….
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz
>>>> *Sent:* July 2, 2016 2:04 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cogent is great as long as you have another peer to balance out
>>>> “issues”. They have a shitload of the internet as directly connected
>>>> customers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -PK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2016 6:44 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Location does make a big difference. I would in no way use them for a
>>>> single upstream. For one, Cogent doesn't have the entire IPv6 Internet.
>>>> They are great in a mix, especially if you have a route management platform
>>>> or take only customer routes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image:
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image:
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image:
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cogent
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good,
>>>> bad, ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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