AND the people hanging on to /16 blocks to sell them later. :(
Travis
On 8/9/2016 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Uh... Pretty sure it's the schools with /16 and DOD with a dozen /8
before all of the WISPs to blame for exhaustion :)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 9, 2016 12:26 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
Thanks
So see? It's all you WISP cowboys out there GIVING IPs away for
pennies that's caused the world to run out of addresses!
It's not the datacenter monkeys and "DevOPs" folks, oh no.
/s
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:
> Great list. Nice work.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2016 12:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Comcast (may be old pricing): $15 / mo
>> Comcast business: $20 / mo
>> AT&T: $15 - $40 / mo
>> Verizon Wireless: $500 "one time setup fee" (ZOINKS!, that is the
>> wireless division though...)
>> Verizon FIOS: $20 / mo (depends on bundling options, it's actually
>> more expensive on the higher plans!, see here:
>>
>>
https://www.verizon.com/smallbusiness/products/business-FiOS-Internet/packages/
<https://www.verizon.com/smallbusiness/products/business-FiOS-Internet/packages/>
>> )
>> CenturyTel: has had $20 / mo pricing since 2011 and possibly
before:
>>
>>
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25926181-CenturyTel-20-per-month-fee-for-single-static-IP-address-seem
<https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25926181-CenturyTel-20-per-month-fee-for-single-static-IP-address-seem>
>> CenturyLink (Qwest network): $10 / mo with $75 setup fee
>> Time Warner: $20 / mo
>> Google Fiber: $20 for 1 /mo, $30 for 5 / mo
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>>
>> wrote:
>> > Yes, but that is direct retail side, and that is most likely
reflective
>> > of
>> > internal policy.. (running server on a static IP)... thus
getting a
>> > premium
>> > for that type of use.
>> >
>> > Bulk of the broadband providers are still in the $3 to $5 /
ip range.
>> >
>> > Faisal Imtiaz
>> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> > 7266 SW 48 Street
>> > Miami, FL 33155
>> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>> >
>> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
>> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:17:45 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?
>> >
>> > The residential ISPs have been preparing for this by charging
up to
>> > $30/Mo
>> > :( see Google.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 9, 2016 8:54 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"
<fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> yeah, projections from the same folks who create stock
market bubbles
>> >> !
>> >> LOL!, there is no shortage of folks making up numbers as needed.
>> >>
>> >> Logically speaking, look at the trending lease price, in the
range of
>> >> $1
>> >> to $2 /ip /month... which would give a very good clue on
purchase
>> >> price.
>> >>
>> >> For a $300 to $500 per IP valuation, the ongoing lease rate
would need
>> >> to
>> >> be in the $10/$20 /month range. Which I have a hard time
visualizing...
>> >>
>> >> Retail rental/lease from Upstream IP transit providers is
still running
>> >> somewhere between Free to less than $3-$5/ip/month.
Depending on the
>> >> ARPU of
>> >> the BW purchase.
>> >>
>> >> my 2.5 cents worth.
>> >>
>> >> Faisal Imtiaz
>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> >> Miami, FL 33155
>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> >>
>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
>> >> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:55:42 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?
>> >>
>> >> > Reasonable projections (IMO) I have seen are $30 to $40
per IP. I
>> >> > have
>> >> > seen some projections talking $100-$200 per IP. This is a
one time
>> >> > fee
>> >> > though, not including RIR transfer and annual fee (much
smaller than
>> >> > the cost of the block, based on total allocations to you).
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
>> >> > <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >> $13 per IP on a /24 ???? wow.....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Travis Johnson
<t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> He created a toaster?? LOL
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> https://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-history/
<https://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-history/>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Travis
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 8/8/2016 8:53 PM, Robert wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> He can afford to wait a long time.... He was the
developer of the
>> >> >>> first
>> >> >>> of one of the major devices on the internet.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 8/8/16 5:24 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> As in a /16 ? he’ll be waiting a long time in my
opinion …. (could
>> >> >>> be
>> >> >>> dead wrong there)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I monitor prices every so often to “check in” and see
what the
>> >> >>> market
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> doing … seen prices drop in the past few months, not
sure why –
>> >> >>> guessing
>> >> >>> that it’s because the market is slowing down and/or
there are more
>> >> >>> blocks
>> >> >>> coming available
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Robert
>> >> >>> Sent: August 8, 2016 7:39 PM
>> >> >>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> A friend of mine has an unused Class B... But he's
going to wait
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> $300-500 pricing... LOL...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 8/8/16 3:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> besides ip auctions.com <http://auctions.com> Anyone
knows of of ip address sources for
>> >> >>> buying?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >
>> >
