Nice analogy.

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From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/30/2016 1:17:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...

if money doesnt go to both staff and hardware, money isnt a good thing to throw at it. Underpaid, overworked, under-qualified staff end up standing confused poking themselves in the eye looking at the cobblefuckery on the network. you can hand the best gear in the world to a guy, if hes just poking himself in the eye its not going to do any good. If you have a good team, you can do more with less, like ubnt, but if you have a good team AND good gear you can do great things and nobody gets poked in the eye































On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
No doubt there will be plenty of poorly run and designed (and may already be) ePMP and Mimosa networks, but I suspect that the majority of those networks will always be UBNT and maybe some MikroTik, simply because if you're comparing price and the specs that most people without a lot of experience are going to care about, Cambium looks like a pretty poor value in comparison, even with ePMP - as in "Why would I pay $100+ for a Force 200 and only does 200Mbps, when I can get a LiteBeam AC that does 450Mbps for like $60?". You probably aren't going to understand why things like GPS sync, and most of the things Cambium does better, matter until you try to run a fairly large network - and in a lot of cases they really don't matter until the network grows to a certain point, which makes UBNT a fine choice... in a lot of cases probably even the best choice.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
To add to this, there's a lot of poorly run UBNT networks out there simply because the price made the equipment more accessable.

I'm sure there's a fair share of poorly designed cambium networks as well, but likely not as many (more money in the company, higher % of experienced professionals, etc).

I'm sure there will be just as many poorly designed and ran ePMP and Mimosa networks given time :)


On Sep 30, 2016 11:08 AM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
ohhh… good conversation in my opinion.

I came from a pure Cambium/Moto shop and now work with a company that is pure ubiquiti … but i’m not hands on with that side of the shop …. would say with everything I’ve seen from a distance that I really miss Cambium gear ;)


> On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
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> Knowing what you know, if you were starting a WISP, based solely on performance and manageability, if you had to be 100% one or the other would you select Ubiquiti or Cambium 450x for your APs and CPE/SM hardware (leaving the backhaul out of the discussion)?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam





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