Your regulations seem to do a bad job regarding this. Our frequencies are 
auctioned but it is taken care of every bigger carrier cant get all spectrum of 
a band.



O2 and Eplus merge (owner is Spanish Telefonica). They have to give back some 
spectrum which is auctioned again.



On the other side Wisps have much more/better usable spectrum in US.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett
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It might be different in Europe (deployments, not physics). Here one carrier 
owns nearly all of 2.5. All share the rest of the bands. The US carriers have 
only talked about 3.5 from the small cells aspect. Maybe outdoor urban, but 
definitely high density venues.



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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?

When it comes to wall penetration 3.5 is not very good. Carriers here have 1800 
and 2500 for smaller cells.





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Indoor, they'll use 3.5.



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To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 7:05:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?

As 3.5 GHz isn’t that good with indoor coverage I guess cellulars first fill up 
the spectrum below 3GHz and migrate from UMTS/GPRS/GSM to LTE to squeeze more 
bandwidth out of the lower frequencies. Indoor they might use wifi. Vodaphone 
and T-Mobile e.g. do wifi-calling with some handsets.





Von: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag 
von Josh Reynolds
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Oktober 2016 13:04
An:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?



3.xx is in the sights of AT&T, Verizon, Google, etc as well.



On Oct 3, 2016 5:37 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net 
<mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

At the moment there are the following options:



TDD LTE (Baicells / Telrad / Huawei)



PMP450 (Cambium)



WiMAX (Cambium/Purewave/Telrad)



UBNT M365 (Ubiquity)



WiMAX and UBNT do not have any development/future. TDD-LTE claims good NLOS 
capabilities. PMP450 claims higher sector capacity with LOS (QAM256). LTE 
claims Standards compatibility while there are not much options to select 
between. Baicell seem to bring LTE costs down to the Level of PMP450 while both 
are way above the level of wifi-based 5GHz systems. Baicell is in a 
testing/beta stage phase. PMP450 may increase performance/NLOS capability with 
cnMedusa next year. Not seen any announcements where TDD-LTE implementations 
are heading to next year.



We’re still running WiMAX for NLOS as there is no clear path where to go









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