Definitely looking at Fixed as a solution. They wanna drink the Fixed Koolaid too but chance favors the prepared mind :)

On 10/03/2016 07:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
It might be different in Europe (deployments, not physics). Here one carrier owns nearly all of 2.5. All share the rest of the bands. The US carriers have only talked about 3.5 from the small cells aspect. Maybe outdoor urban, but definitely high density venues.



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*From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
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*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?

When it comes to wall penetration 3.5 is not very good. Carriers here have 1800 and 2500 for smaller cells.

*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett
*Gesendet:* Montag, 3. Oktober 2016 14:16
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Indoor, they'll use 3.5.



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*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?

As 3.5 GHz isn’t that good with indoor coverage I guess cellulars first fill up the spectrum below 3GHz and migrate from UMTS/GPRS/GSM to LTE to squeeze more bandwidth out of the lower frequencies. Indoor they might use wifi. Vodaphone and T-Mobile e.g. do wifi-calling with some handsets.

*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Josh Reynolds
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*Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?

3.xx is in the sights of AT&T, Verizon, Google, etc as well.

On Oct 3, 2016 5:37 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:

    At the moment there are the following options:

    TDD LTE (Baicells / Telrad / Huawei)

    PMP450 (Cambium)

    WiMAX (Cambium/Purewave/Telrad)

    UBNT M365 (Ubiquity)

    WiMAX and UBNT do not have any development/future. TDD-LTE claims
    good NLOS capabilities. PMP450 claims higher sector capacity with
    LOS (QAM256). LTE claims Standards compatibility while there are
    not much options to select between. Baicell seem to bring LTE
    costs down to the Level of PMP450 while both are way above the
    level of wifi-based 5GHz systems. Baicell is in a testing/beta
    stage phase. PMP450 may increase performance/NLOS capability with
    cnMedusa next year. Not seen any announcements where TDD-LTE
    implementations are heading to next year.

    We’re still running WiMAX for NLOS as there is no clear path where
    to go



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