You people who brag about first thing you do is jailbreaking and rooting, that’s great for you, but that’s hardly the typical cellphone customer.
That’s the problem with discussing a mass market device on a list like this. I remember from the Marketing 101 course I had to take in business school, the professor said remember, your target market is not people like you. This goes double for techies. Think of the boys on Big Bang Theory designing their killer app to recognize equations, <sarcasm> certainly that’s something everyone needs </sarcasm>. Even on this list, can I be the only person who views my phone as just a tool like a drill or wrench? I don’t want to modify it, I just want it to make calls and run apps. My phone is not a hobby. Is it too much to ask that a phone be useful with the factory software? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple Text messaging hardly counts as heavy usage. It's a single, low impact app. If you upgrade once a year, you never have had the device long enough to need to reset it to factory. If they're so great, why are you replacing them so often? Of course if you think texting is heavy usage, you've never found a need to do more with your phone (like jailbreaking or rooting). I root immediately for better control over and information from the radios, for one. That's not even possible on Apple. For a "simple shit" user, there is no major difference between an iPhone and a mainstream Galaxy S or an iPad and a Galaxy Tab. All four do Chrome, Facebook and Instagram. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:45:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple I agree that your phone probably works "very, very well"... but you said yourself you have never used an Apple product... so what are you comparing to? I've had an iPhone since the very first model. I'm not a "wait in line for days" to buy the latest and greatest model, but I do upgrade about once a year. During the last 8-9 years, I've never had a single issue with the phones... never had to "restore" or "reset to factory" or do any of those other things. I've never had to hack or jailbreak or do any other things to my phones. During my biggest month of usage, I sent and received over 15,000 text messages, so the phone gets used. I have used an Android phone... and it was clunky and just not as "user friendly" in general. I also have several Android tablets, and they are the same way... especially compared to my wife's new iPad Pro, which is an amazing piece of equipment. :) Travis On 10/5/2016 8:04 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > You realize that the US represents about 5% of the world population. > Maybe you don't care about the other 95%, but you would be a small > minority. > > And I don't agree about screen response. My Android phone works very, > very well. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 10/5/2016 6:24 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: >> Actually, Apple is the top smartphone in the US... nobody cares about >> the rest of the world... they have 44% marketshare in the US. You >> know, the country where every real Internet and tech company is >> located... Apple, Intel, Facebook, Instagram, Amazon, Google, etc. >> >> Take your pick of Android phone... their screen responses all suck >> compared to an iPhone. :) >> >> Travis >> >> >> On 10/5/2016 6:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> It was not me that said that. >>> >>> I don't buy Apple products. Period. I would not get an Apple product >>> if it were free. >>> >>> And there is good reason that most of the people on the planet use a >>> smartphone other than theirs. >>> >>> And a Samsung smartphone is not real Android, so that is a piss poor >>> comparison. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 10/5/2016 3:30 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: >>>> Some people ride a Honda, some people ride a Harley. Some people >>>> drive a Chevy, some people drive a BMW. >>>> >>>> I think it was you that even said "If the price was the same, >>>> everyone would be using an iPhone"... which I honestly believe. I >>>> have used a brand new Samsung phone with Android, and the first >>>> thing I noticed is that the screen response is not the same as an >>>> iPhone >>> >>> >> > >