Don't most tech companies just hand their hardware specs to some other
company (usually Chinese / Taiwanese) to have them made? The only companies
that actually make phones are Foxconn and the like.

On Thursday, October 6, 2016, Mike Hammett <[email protected]
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> But they don't actually make things. They hand some hardware specs (though
> I don't know how thorough) to a vendor and they make it. Other than when
> Google owned Motorola, they haven't actually made any phones.
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> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:45:51 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple
>
> Yes, back to the original subject.
>
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>
> FYI, I still get a print newspaper at home, and it had a whole separate
> section like 10 or 12 pages paid for by Google with the theme “Made By
> Google”.  That cost a bunch.  So they view this as a big marketing push,
> they now want to be known as a hardware company that makes things.  (Or
> perhaps Things, as in Internet of Things.)
>
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>
> It is a bit reminiscent of 1984 though.  George Orwell was right, the
> Proles will pay to have their own Telescreens.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:03 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple
>
>
>
> Why all the anger? It's simply personal preference. Apple has a closed
> ecosystem. The hardware is tailored to a specific OS and vice-versa. They
> have full control. This is the reason Apple will always have speed and
> efficiency advantages. It should go without saying.
>
>
>
> Android is an OS built to work for hundreds of different hardware
> configurations. I find that to be very impressive that it works as well as
> it does. I think everyone understands the distinction between the two
> platforms and know what to expect. The argument and comparisons between the
> two is getting old. Each is a great product in their own right.
>
>
>
> To get back to the original subject line. I do agree. Google understands
> they can make a better product if they have more control over the hardware.
> I don't think anyone can dispute Google intentions in this particular case.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You obviously didn't read my message... my point was, in the US market,
> which is the "most educated, most advanced" country in the world, Apple has
> a 44% marketshare... almost double of the 2nd place phone.
>
> We can talk "Android" use vs IOS use, but anyone can build and GIVE AWAY
> an Operating System... just like starting a company that you don't have to
> make a profit... anyone can do that.  :)
>
> Travis
>
> On 10/5/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> You have a strong opinion, but it is poorly formed. Apple has a decent
> take in the US market, but that's a small percentage of the overall pie.
> That's slated to slide more away from Apple given current trends.
>
> 2nd quarter of this year Android was at 86.2% global smartphone share, and
> Apple is losing ground quarter after quarter.
>
> https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/18/gartner-androids-smartphon
> e-marketshare-hit-86-2-in-q2/
>
> 87.6 once more results were in:
> http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
>
> You're entitled to your opinion though, by all means.
>
>
>
> On Oct 5, 2016 8:24 PM, "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Actually, Apple is the top smartphone in the US... nobody cares about the
> rest of the world... they have 44% marketshare in the US. You know, the
> country where every real Internet and tech company is located... Apple,
> Intel, Facebook, Instagram, Amazon, Google, etc.
>
> Take your pick of Android phone... their screen responses all suck
> compared to an iPhone. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 10/5/2016 6:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> It was not me that said that.
>
> I don't buy Apple products. Period. I would not get an Apple product if it
> were free.
>
> And there is good reason that most of the people on the planet use a
> smartphone other than theirs.
>
> And a Samsung smartphone is not real Android, so that is a piss poor
> comparison.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 10/5/2016 3:30 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>
> Some people ride a Honda, some people ride a Harley. Some people drive a
> Chevy, some people drive a BMW.
>
> I think it was you that even said "If the price was the same, everyone
> would be using an iPhone"... which I honestly believe. I have used a brand
> new Samsung phone with Android, and the first thing I noticed is that the
> screen response is not the same as an iPhone
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