How can you not like American Cheese? What do you use to make grilled
cheese sandwiches? What do you put on cheezburgers?
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 5:28 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
As much as we love cheese here, how did we get the crappiest
pseudo-cheese named after us?
On Monday, October 10, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Mmmmmm, American Cheese.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 4:52 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
Canada is building a wall.... very quietly... out of American Cheese.
*From:*Jaime Solorza
*Sent:*Monday, October 10, 2016 3:49 PM
*To:*Animal Farm
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
Hey I think Canada might invades us... Rump insulted their health
care system....
On Oct 10, 2016 3:28 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');>> wrote:
I dunno, I’ll ask.
*From:*Travis Johnson
*Sent:*Monday, October 10, 2016 3:27 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
Hi,
Just curious, do you know what her tax rates are like? It
seems like the money has to come from somewhere for National
Health Care, so I'm curious if it's part of their income tax
structure, or somewhere else?
Travis
On 10/10/2016 3:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Some things should not see competition.
Municipal water and sewer systems for example. Streets,
roads and highways.
One can make a pretty good argument for the power
company. Gas company.
Less so for Telco and CATV.
So what is healthcare? Similar to national defense? We
already have 5-6 branches of the armed forces duplicating
services there.
Similar to public education? We have competition there
too. (Are the Merchant Marine their own branch?)
I have a daughter that lives in England. She loves the
National Health System. And they have private doctors if
they want them too.
Somebody will win a nobel prize in economics if they can
model this and produce the correct answer.
*From:*Lewis Bergman
*Sent:*Monday, October 10, 2016 2:47 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
I struggle to recall much of anything that thrives,
innovates, and is efficient without competition.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
I still think that it would be better with a single
payer system like what's in use in most other
countries in the world.
Problem is we would have to figure out how to do that
without letting the government administer it.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 10/10/2016 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Amen.
(I was actually hoping the ACA would bring
insurance to low income folks. Didn’t happen. I
personally know a handful that tried and could not
get something they could afford. Even the low cost
packages had deductable like $1500. Stay poor and
stay on Medicaid was my advice to them...)
*From:*Lewis Bergman
*Sent:*Monday, October 10, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
The trouble with facts is the government is in
charge of keeping them so it is very difficult to
get a real picture of what has or is going on.
What is a surplus? well, most administrations that
I remember state that they have a surplus when the
money they spent was less than they were going to
spend or the money they were going to spend was
less than what they took in.
None of how the government accounts for money
would work for anyone who can't print their own.
It doesn't matter who is in charge, it is
extremely difficult to plow through all the BS
they throw up to get to the real numbers. Doesn't
matter if it is deportations and what counts as
one, "saving money" and what counts as that, some
word called winning which I'll be damned if I know
what that means anymore. Trump uses that word a
lot but I am not sure he can explain what he mans
by it.
I just had to turn the debate off. It is just so
hard to imagine that we are in this mess. But
democracy is messy. The good news is that the
president can hardly ruin everything without a lot
of cooperation. Even Obama could barely get
healthcare passed with both houses. Both of these
characters are so well hated by so many I can't
imagine they will be able to do anything but
appoint people and make executive orders.
Of course, it is better for the economy when
congress can't pass laws anyway.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:54 PM Robert Andrews
<i...@avantwireless.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','i...@avantwireless.com');>>
wrote:
The jist of what I said earlier is that Trump
is there to make others
look good _BY Comparison_... When looked at
on absolute scales other
things may be observed...
On 10/10/2016 12:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> The Clinton Foundation has actually done
some good in the world; as
> opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation"
has served no one other
> than himself or his "companies".
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton
Foundation...
>>
>> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Don't forget it was a republican congress
that wrote and passed the
>>> legislation.
>>>
>>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just
pointing out that it takes two to
>>> tango.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it... BC was just
lucky to be sitting
>>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a
god.. Then he
>>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come
along in 50 years
>>>> against advice on the last few days of his
presidency.. Not inspiring
>>>> in any way... But we are now wedged and your
advice is correct. We
>>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't
pull a BC on her
>>>> last days in office.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the
tech boom and the
>>>>> advent
>>>>> of the commercial internet. That is what
produced the surplus, he
>>>>> just
>>>>> lucked out. His decisions to deregulate mortgage
banking is what
>>>>> brought us all back down in 2008.
>>>>> I have told former business partners (upon
learning of their
>>>>> infidelity)
>>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell
will cheat me.
>>>>> In my mind the game is over. 4 years of watching
something that could
>>>>> have been so much better lies ahead. Been
through it before, can
>>>>> endure
>>>>> it again.
>>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST
form of governments....
>>>>> except for all the others.
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM
>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>>>>> Now you sound like my Trump loving buddy....state
facts.....not
>>>>> shit you
>>>>> hear from Hannity, OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch..
>>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't
mince words)
>>>>> balanced the
>>>>> budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he
didn't do it
>>>>> BFM...(By
>>>>> Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it took
both sides to get
>>>>> those
>>>>> things going....Knock Obama all you want, you do
anyways, but he
>>>>> inherited a shit storm and even with all the
Republican resistance,
>>>>> got
>>>>> us out of the recession. Trump used the
recession to make
>>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's
movie)...Trump keeps blaming
>>>>> Obama
>>>>> for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like
our Texas Board of
>>>>> Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong,
no matter who does
>>>>> it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other
presidents cheated on their
>>>>> wives...I bought out my first business partner
for just
>>>>> that...cheating
>>>>> on his wife and children...Guess I am old school,
but if a man
>>>>> cheats on
>>>>> those close to him, where the hell do I stand in
that relationship?
>>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on
this list allot
>>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read
anything on this list
>>>>> about thinking its okay to grope women because
you are rich or a
>>>>> celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters
voluptuous ...NBC
>>>>> suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme
pressure from social
>>>>> media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the
media is what
>>>>> will do
>>>>> him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING
REALITY SHOW YOU MORON
>>>>> TRUMP!!! I know those who approve of him will
stay loyal up to the
>>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it
again...It reminds of
>>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but
didn't give a
>>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great
Again dream will not
>>>>> ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping
giant.....too many of
>>>>> us are educated now and we can vote....as much as
you want to change
>>>>> voting laws to keep us out, it will not
work......lets see how it
>>>>> plays
>>>>> out on November 8th....
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>915-861-1390 <tel:%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless
Administrator
>>>>> <wirel...@htn.net
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wirel...@htn.net');>>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE
YEARS.____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your
country can do for
>>>>> you, ask
>>>>> what you can do for your country.”____*
>>>>>
>>>>> *____*
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT !
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> *$19,493,291,113,808____*
>>>>>
>>>>> *____*
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the
other issues matter.
>>>>> I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt
someone’s
>>>>> feelings on
>>>>> the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve B.____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>
>
