Damn.  All this cheese talk made me crave a quesadilla and Tecate... Or pan
blanco cut in half,  (bollilio, Francesito), slice of cheese,  slice of
avocado, dab of Mayo....

On Oct 10, 2016 4:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:


amen



----- Original Message -----
*From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 5:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

Cheddar

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On Oct 10, 2016 3:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> How can you not like American Cheese?  What do you use to make grilled
> cheese sandwiches?  What do you put on cheezburgers?
>
>
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 5:28 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>
>
>
> As much as we love cheese here, how did we get the crappiest pseudo-cheese
> named after us?
>
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Mmmmmm, American Cheese.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 4:52 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>
>
>
> Canada is building a wall.... very quietly... out of American Cheese.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:49 PM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>
>
>
> Hey I think Canada might invades us... Rump insulted their health care
> system....
>
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2016 3:28 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> I dunno, I’ll ask.
>
>
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:27 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just curious, do you know what her tax rates are like? It seems like the
> money has to come from somewhere for National Health Care, so I'm curious
> if it's part of their income tax structure, or somewhere else?
>
> Travis
>
> On 10/10/2016 3:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Some things should not see competition.
>
> Municipal water and sewer systems for example.  Streets, roads and
> highways.
>
> One can make a pretty good argument for the power company.  Gas company.
>
> Less so for Telco and CATV.
>
>
>
> So what is healthcare?  Similar to national defense?  We already have 5-6
> branches of the armed forces duplicating services there.
>
> Similar to public education?  We have competition there too.  (Are the
> Merchant Marine their own branch?)
>
>
>
> I have a daughter that lives in England.  She loves the National Health
> System.  And they have private doctors if they want them too.
>
>
>
> Somebody will win a nobel prize in economics if they can model this and
> produce the correct answer.
>
>
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 2:47 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>
>
>
> I struggle to recall much of anything that thrives, innovates, and is
> efficient without competition.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I still think that it would be better with a single payer system like
> what's in use in most other countries in the world.
>
> Problem is we would have to figure out how to do that without letting the
> government administer it.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2016 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Amen.
>
>
>
> (I was actually hoping the ACA would bring insurance to low income folks.
> Didn’t happen.  I personally know a handful that tried and could not get
> something they could afford.  Even the low cost packages had deductable
> like $1500.  Stay poor and stay on Medicaid was my advice to them...)
>
>
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 2:17 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>
>
>
> The trouble with facts is the government is in charge of keeping them so
> it is very difficult to get a real picture of what has or is going on.
>
> What is a surplus? well, most administrations that I remember state that
> they have a surplus when the money they spent was less than they were going
> to spend or the money they were going to spend was less than what they took
> in.
>
>
>
> None of how the government accounts for money would work for anyone who
> can't print their own. It doesn't matter who is in charge, it is extremely
> difficult to plow through all the BS they throw up to get to the real
> numbers. Doesn't matter if it is deportations and what counts as one,
> "saving money" and what counts as that, some word called winning which I'll
> be damned if I know what that means anymore. Trump uses that word a lot but
> I am not sure he can explain what he mans by it.
>
>
>
> I just had to turn the debate off. It is just so hard to imagine that we
> are in this mess. But democracy is messy. The good news is that the
> president can hardly ruin everything without a lot of cooperation. Even
> Obama could barely get healthcare passed with both houses. Both of these
> characters are so well hated by so many I can't imagine they will be able
> to do anything but appoint people and make executive orders.
>
>
>
> Of course, it is better for the economy when congress can't pass laws
> anyway.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:54 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
> wrote:
>
> The jist of what I said earlier is that Trump is there to make others
> look good _BY Comparison_...   When looked at on absolute scales other
> things may be observed...
>
> On 10/10/2016 12:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > The Clinton Foundation has actually done some good in the world; as
> > opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation" has served no one other
> > than himself or his "companies".
> >
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> >> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton Foundation...
> >>
> >> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>> Don't forget it was a republican congress that wrote and passed the
> >>> legislation.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just pointing out that it takes two to
> >>> tango.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> >>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it...   BC was just lucky to be sitting
> >>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a god.. Then he
> >>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come along in 50 years
> >>>> against advice on the last few days of his presidency..  Not inspiring
> >>>> in any way...   But we are now wedged and your advice is correct.  We
> >>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't pull a BC on her
> >>>> last days in office.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the tech boom and the
> >>>>> advent
> >>>>> of the commercial internet.  That is what produced the surplus, he
> >>>>> just
> >>>>> lucked out.  His decisions to deregulate mortgage banking is what
> >>>>> brought us all back down in 2008.
> >>>>> I have told former business partners (upon learning of their
> >>>>> infidelity)
> >>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell will cheat me.
> >>>>> In my mind the game is over.  4 years of watching something that
> could
> >>>>> have been so much better lies ahead.  Been through it before, can
> >>>>> endure
> >>>>> it again.
> >>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST form of governments....
> >>>>> except for all the others.
> >>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM
> >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
> >>>>> Now you sound like my Trump loving buddy....state facts.....not
> >>>>> shit you
> >>>>> hear from Hannity, OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch..
> >>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't mince words)
> >>>>> balanced the
> >>>>> budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he didn't do it
> >>>>> BFM...(By
> >>>>> Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it took both sides to get
> >>>>> those
> >>>>> things going....Knock Obama all you want, you do anyways, but he
> >>>>> inherited a shit storm and even with all the Republican resistance,
> >>>>> got
> >>>>> us out of the recession.   Trump used the recession to make
> >>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's movie)...Trump keeps blaming
> >>>>> Obama
> >>>>> for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like our Texas Board of
> >>>>> Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong, no matter who does
> >>>>> it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other presidents cheated on their
> >>>>> wives...I bought out my first business partner for just
> >>>>> that...cheating
> >>>>> on his wife and children...Guess I am old school, but if a man
> >>>>> cheats on
> >>>>> those close to him, where the hell do I stand in that relationship?
> >>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on this list allot
> >>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read anything on this list
> >>>>> about thinking its okay to grope women because you are rich or a
> >>>>> celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters voluptuous ...NBC
> >>>>> suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme pressure from social
> >>>>> media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the media is what
> >>>>> will do
> >>>>> him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING REALITY SHOW YOU MORON
> >>>>> TRUMP!!!   I know those who approve of him will stay loyal up to the
> >>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it again...It reminds of
> >>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but didn't give a
> >>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great Again dream will not
> >>>>> ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping giant.....too many
> of
> >>>>> us are educated now and we can vote....as much as you want to change
> >>>>> voting laws to keep us out, it will not work......lets see how it
> >>>>> plays
> >>>>> out on November 8th....
> >>>>> Jaime Solorza
> >>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
> >>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless Administrator
> >>>>> <wirel...@htn.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE YEARS.____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for
> >>>>> you, ask
> >>>>>     what you can do for your country.”____*
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *____*
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT !
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *$19,493,291,113,808____*
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *____*
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the other issues matter.
> >>>>>     I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt someone’s
> >>>>> feelings on
> >>>>>     the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Steve B.____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     ____
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
>
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