Damn. All this cheese talk made me crave a quesadilla and Tecate... Or pan blanco cut in half, (bollilio, Francesito), slice of cheese, slice of avocado, dab of Mayo....
On Oct 10, 2016 4:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: amen ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 5:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics Cheddar Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 10, 2016 3:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > How can you not like American Cheese? What do you use to make grilled > cheese sandwiches? What do you put on cheezburgers? > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 5:28 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > > > As much as we love cheese here, how did we get the crappiest pseudo-cheese > named after us? > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > Mmmmmm, American Cheese. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 4:52 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > > > Canada is building a wall.... very quietly... out of American Cheese. > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:49 PM > > *To:* Animal Farm > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > > > Hey I think Canada might invades us... Rump insulted their health care > system.... > > > > On Oct 10, 2016 3:28 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > I dunno, I’ll ask. > > > > *From:* Travis Johnson > > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:27 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > > > Hi, > > Just curious, do you know what her tax rates are like? It seems like the > money has to come from somewhere for National Health Care, so I'm curious > if it's part of their income tax structure, or somewhere else? > > Travis > > On 10/10/2016 3:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Some things should not see competition. > > Municipal water and sewer systems for example. Streets, roads and > highways. > > One can make a pretty good argument for the power company. Gas company. > > Less so for Telco and CATV. > > > > So what is healthcare? Similar to national defense? We already have 5-6 > branches of the armed forces duplicating services there. > > Similar to public education? We have competition there too. (Are the > Merchant Marine their own branch?) > > > > I have a daughter that lives in England. She loves the National Health > System. And they have private doctors if they want them too. > > > > Somebody will win a nobel prize in economics if they can model this and > produce the correct answer. > > > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 2:47 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > > > I struggle to recall much of anything that thrives, innovates, and is > efficient without competition. > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I still think that it would be better with a single payer system like > what's in use in most other countries in the world. > > Problem is we would have to figure out how to do that without letting the > government administer it. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 10/10/2016 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Amen. > > > > (I was actually hoping the ACA would bring insurance to low income folks. > Didn’t happen. I personally know a handful that tried and could not get > something they could afford. Even the low cost packages had deductable > like $1500. Stay poor and stay on Medicaid was my advice to them...) > > > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 2:17 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > > > The trouble with facts is the government is in charge of keeping them so > it is very difficult to get a real picture of what has or is going on. > > What is a surplus? well, most administrations that I remember state that > they have a surplus when the money they spent was less than they were going > to spend or the money they were going to spend was less than what they took > in. > > > > None of how the government accounts for money would work for anyone who > can't print their own. It doesn't matter who is in charge, it is extremely > difficult to plow through all the BS they throw up to get to the real > numbers. Doesn't matter if it is deportations and what counts as one, > "saving money" and what counts as that, some word called winning which I'll > be damned if I know what that means anymore. Trump uses that word a lot but > I am not sure he can explain what he mans by it. > > > > I just had to turn the debate off. It is just so hard to imagine that we > are in this mess. But democracy is messy. The good news is that the > president can hardly ruin everything without a lot of cooperation. Even > Obama could barely get healthcare passed with both houses. Both of these > characters are so well hated by so many I can't imagine they will be able > to do anything but appoint people and make executive orders. > > > > Of course, it is better for the economy when congress can't pass laws > anyway. > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:54 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: > > The jist of what I said earlier is that Trump is there to make others > look good _BY Comparison_... When looked at on absolute scales other > things may be observed... > > On 10/10/2016 12:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > The Clinton Foundation has actually done some good in the world; as > > opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation" has served no one other > > than himself or his "companies". > > > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > >> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton Foundation... > >> > >> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >>> Don't forget it was a republican congress that wrote and passed the > >>> legislation. > >>> > >>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just pointing out that it takes two to > >>> tango. > >>> > >>> > >>> bp > >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >>> > >>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > >>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it... BC was just lucky to be sitting > >>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a god.. Then he > >>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come along in 50 years > >>>> against advice on the last few days of his presidency.. Not inspiring > >>>> in any way... But we are now wedged and your advice is correct. We > >>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't pull a BC on her > >>>> last days in office. > >>>> > >>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the tech boom and the > >>>>> advent > >>>>> of the commercial internet. That is what produced the surplus, he > >>>>> just > >>>>> lucked out. His decisions to deregulate mortgage banking is what > >>>>> brought us all back down in 2008. > >>>>> I have told former business partners (upon learning of their > >>>>> infidelity) > >>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell will cheat me. > >>>>> In my mind the game is over. 4 years of watching something that > could > >>>>> have been so much better lies ahead. Been through it before, can > >>>>> endure > >>>>> it again. > >>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST form of governments.... > >>>>> except for all the others. > >>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza > >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM > >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > >>>>> Now you sound like my Trump loving buddy....state facts.....not > >>>>> shit you > >>>>> hear from Hannity, OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch.. > >>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't mince words) > >>>>> balanced the > >>>>> budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he didn't do it > >>>>> BFM...(By > >>>>> Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it took both sides to get > >>>>> those > >>>>> things going....Knock Obama all you want, you do anyways, but he > >>>>> inherited a shit storm and even with all the Republican resistance, > >>>>> got > >>>>> us out of the recession. Trump used the recession to make > >>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's movie)...Trump keeps blaming > >>>>> Obama > >>>>> for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like our Texas Board of > >>>>> Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong, no matter who does > >>>>> it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other presidents cheated on their > >>>>> wives...I bought out my first business partner for just > >>>>> that...cheating > >>>>> on his wife and children...Guess I am old school, but if a man > >>>>> cheats on > >>>>> those close to him, where the hell do I stand in that relationship? > >>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on this list allot > >>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read anything on this list > >>>>> about thinking its okay to grope women because you are rich or a > >>>>> celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters voluptuous ...NBC > >>>>> suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme pressure from social > >>>>> media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the media is what > >>>>> will do > >>>>> him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING REALITY SHOW YOU MORON > >>>>> TRUMP!!! I know those who approve of him will stay loyal up to the > >>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it again...It reminds of > >>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but didn't give a > >>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great Again dream will not > >>>>> ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping giant.....too many > of > >>>>> us are educated now and we can vote....as much as you want to change > >>>>> voting laws to keep us out, it will not work......lets see how it > >>>>> plays > >>>>> out on November 8th.... > >>>>> Jaime Solorza > >>>>> Wireless Systems Architect > >>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390> > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless Administrator > >>>>> <wirel...@htn.net> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE YEARS.____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for > >>>>> you, ask > >>>>> what you can do for your country.”____* > >>>>> > >>>>> *____* > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT ! > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> *$19,493,291,113,808____* > >>>>> > >>>>> *____* > >>>>> > >>>>> It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the other issues matter. > >>>>> I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt someone’s > >>>>> feelings on > >>>>> the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve B.____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>>>> ____ > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > > > >