Dependent upon the contract, I wouldnt pay if the service or goods were not
delivered to a satisfaction of the contract terms either.

I would bet alot of these "stiffed" companies historical data, BBB and
otherwise is not what you would call stellar. sure there may be an outlier
to stick up at a podium and call them the representative norm, I can call
my shoe a treefrog if I want to, but it doesnt make it so

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:

> My mistake. I was referring to Trump's companies. Not the illegal Clinton
> Foundation. God I hope they get audited. :)  I agree with your statement
> 100% Rory.
>
> (I know someone is going to say something about Trump not paying his
> employees or contractors. One has to wonder though how long thousands of
> people would continue to go to work were they not getting paid.)
>
>
> On 10/17/2016 1:12 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
>> You mean the 5.7% of the income they actually spent on charities or the
>> 94% they spent on salaries, travel, and other expenses?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Morris
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:50 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>>
>> Or the thousands pf people employed by his companies.
>>
>> On 10/10/2016 2:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>>> The Clinton Foundation has actually done some good in the world; as
>>> opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation" has served no one other
>>> than himself or his "companies".
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton Foundation...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget it was a republican congress that wrote and passed the
>>>>> legislation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just pointing out that it takes two
>>>>> to tango.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it...   BC was just lucky to be sitting
>>>>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a god.. Then he
>>>>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come along in 50 years
>>>>>> against advice on the last few days of his presidency..  Not inspiring
>>>>>> in any way...   But we are now wedged and your advice is correct.  We
>>>>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't pull a BC on her
>>>>>> last days in office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the tech boom and the
>>>>>>> advent of the commercial internet.  That is what produced the
>>>>>>> surplus, he just lucked out.  His decisions to deregulate mortgage
>>>>>>> banking is what brought us all back down in 2008.
>>>>>>> I have told former business partners (upon learning of their
>>>>>>> infidelity)
>>>>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell will cheat me.
>>>>>>> In my mind the game is over.  4 years of watching something that
>>>>>>> could have been so much better lies ahead.  Been through it
>>>>>>> before, can endure it again.
>>>>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST form of governments....
>>>>>>> except for all the others.
>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics Now you sound like my Trump
>>>>>>> loving buddy....state facts.....not shit you hear from Hannity,
>>>>>>> OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch..
>>>>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't mince words)
>>>>>>> balanced the budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he
>>>>>>> didn't do it BFM...(By Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it
>>>>>>> took both sides to get those things going....Knock Obama all you
>>>>>>> want, you do anyways, but he inherited a shit storm and even with
>>>>>>> all the Republican resistance, got
>>>>>>> us out of the recession.   Trump used the recession to make
>>>>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's movie)...Trump keeps blaming
>>>>>>> Obama for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like our Texas
>>>>>>> Board of Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong, no matter
>>>>>>> who does it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other presidents
>>>>>>> cheated on their wives...I bought out my first business partner
>>>>>>> for just that...cheating on his wife and children...Guess I am old
>>>>>>> school, but if a man cheats on those close to him, where the hell
>>>>>>> do I stand in that relationship?
>>>>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on this list allot
>>>>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read anything on this
>>>>>>> list about thinking its okay to grope women because you are rich
>>>>>>> or a celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters voluptuous
>>>>>>> ...NBC suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme pressure from
>>>>>>> social media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the media is
>>>>>>> what will do him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING
>>>>>>> REALITY SHOW YOU MORON
>>>>>>> TRUMP!!!   I know those who approve of him will stay loyal up to the
>>>>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it again...It reminds of
>>>>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but didn't give a
>>>>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great Again dream will
>>>>>>> not ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping giant.....too
>>>>>>> many of us are educated now and we can vote....as much as you want
>>>>>>> to change voting laws to keep us out, it will not work......lets
>>>>>>> see how it plays out on November 8th....
>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless Administrator
>>>>>>> <wirel...@htn.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE YEARS.____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for
>>>>>>> you, ask
>>>>>>>      what you can do for your country.”____*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      *____*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      *$19,493,291,113,808____*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      *____*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the other issues matter.
>>>>>>>      I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt someone’s
>>>>>>> feelings on
>>>>>>>      the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Steve B.____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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