on the access side where you might have issues with stp is if your customer is 
then connecting to a cisco switch these stp messages between equipment can get 
funny and start shutting off ports because one side supports it and the other 
doesn't.  you'll go crazy locating these issues.




Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com<mailto:car...@race.com> / 
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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:38:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp


You veered way off into something I wasn't even talking about.

There's nothing wrong with a loop protect on an access port, but since its not 
an official standard, there will be variances in loop detection algorithm 
quality and design between vendors. YMMV.

That said, there's nothing wrong with STP on access ports either.

On Oct 25, 2016 4:27 PM, "George Skorup" 
<geo...@cbcast.com<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Care to explain? What's wrong with simple loop-protect on an edge port facing a 
dumb customer?

On 10/25/2016 3:07 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

*facepalm*

On Oct 25, 2016 3:06 PM, "George Skorup" 
<geo...@cbcast.com<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Lots of switch vendors and even MikroTik (in the 6.37 branch, IIRC) support 
loop protection. If all you care about is stopping a loop, then use that. Use 
STP if you need its functionality.

On 10/25/2016 1:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

If one of the ports has a loop, it will block only that port. Obviously, 
disable STP on uplinks.

On Oct 25, 2016 1:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn't going to do 
anything, right?

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp


STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall.


On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
How can STP being enabled help anything if you are not using it?

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp

I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges are 
(R?) STP by default.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually Netonix (one t, no r). I don't know that I would leave it on, but I 
don't know how you're using it.

https://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch.html

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



On 10/25/2016 9:04 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Nettonix.

You could always leave it on... If your access network is layer2 up to that 
switch, it could help.


On Oct 25, 2016 11:03 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol was 
enabled.
we've run this switch probably four months - no real side effects - but i don't 
run stp anywhere
else.  any reason to leave this on?

thanks






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