LOL .. not mine - they are secure :)  I actually spent several hours doing 
security scanning in my house last weekend to make sure there wasn’t some 
“default” access that a vendor left open …

> On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> With all of these DDoSes lately, those cameras will need all of the upload 
> they can get.
> 
> 
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> From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:38:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home
> 
> So perhaps on difference there is that you can do one single stream of 
> Netflix .. but in my household during the evenings there is typically 3-4 
> streams at once = ~16Mb/s 
> 
> Just an example of what some folks consider “need”
> 
> Another reason for increased upload speed is home security cameras and stuff 
> if you are storing on cloud …. I’m going to be faced with that shortly myself 
> where I estimate 4-6Mb/s needed at various times (motion activated) to 
> capture high quality video 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com 
> > <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > I have 5/1 at home and can do everything I need to do, including Netflix.
> > 
> > On 11/2/2016 9:48 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
> >> What?  20/5 (or less) is still very adequate for *lots* of users.
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Roger Timmerman <timmer...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:timmer...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>    Is this a re-run from 2005?  Are we really talking about 20M/5M or
> >>    less still being an option and being adequate?
> >> 
> >>    On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
> >>    <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>        That could be part of it.  I work from home with 3m/1m.  It's
> >>        not uncommon to have a kid watching cartoons on Netflix while
> >>        I'm working.
> >> 
> >>        The thing is, most of what I'm doing across the network is
> >>        remote terminals and remote desktops.  And I'm clever enough
> >>        that when I need to transfer a large file to the office I'll use
> >>        WinSCP and put a speed limit on the transfer so I can keep doing
> >>        other things.  Some people might start the big file transfer and
> >>        then call IT because nothing else works now.
> >> 
> >>        I'm aware that there are people using some Autodesk cloud
> >>        storage/versioning thing that integrates with AutoCAD....they
> >>        were told to /try /to get 10meg upload /if they can/ and I
> >>        believe they might really use it.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>        On 11/2/2016 12:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> >>>        I think a lot of it is just lazy IT guys not wanting to deal
> >>>        with people causing problems by watching Netflix on six TVs
> >>>        while they're trying to work, so they just tell them they need
> >>>        five times the speed they actually do.
> >>> 
> >>>        We've had customers that were told they needed something like
> >>>        3Mbps upload, but were able to do their jobs perfectly fine on
> >>>        a plan with 1Mbps upload.
> >>> 
> >>>        On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Jaime Solorza
> >>>        <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
> >>>        wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>            Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good
> >>>            upstream to upload medical scans she does for several
> >>>            clinics and private doctors from house or retirement
> >>>            places.   She had to upgrade plan from TWC to accommodate
> >>>            her.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>            On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com
> >>>            <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>                Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective
> >>>                customers say they needed a minimum of 20M/5M per
> >>>                company IT dept to work from home, emphasis on the 5M
> >>>                upstream.
> >>> 
> >>>                This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and
> >>>                seems high to me.  In many cases even in town on cable
> >>>                Internet, they will need at least a plan with at least
> >>>                50M download to get that much upload.  My experience
> >>>                in the past has been that even our 3M/1M plan is
> >>>                actually sufficient for most people to work from home
> >>>                (assuming they aren’t contending with the rest of the
> >>>                family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).
> >>> 
> >>>                Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much
> >>>                upstream to work from home?  Or just a coincidence
> >>>                I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many weeks.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 

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