It has to. When we label, we often demonize. We are all (mostly on this list!) Americans.
United we stand, divide we fall. On Nov 10, 2016 6:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: Venting Josh. It will pass.. .at least I hope it does.. On Nov 10, 2016 5:10 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > Its important we stop labeling Americans Jaime. > > On Nov 10, 2016 6:07 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It was rigged... Ha. If Clinton had won your side would have claimed >> that and start getting your guns cleaned and ready.. >> I want see how you Trumpesvites feel 6 months from now...the whole world >> is watching.. And our enemies with a drink and popcorn... And for you that >> said you would leave your wife or daughter alone with Trump... I honestly >> don't believe you unless your into that kind of thing. >> >> On Nov 10, 2016 4:12 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, there are scumbags everywhere. Yes, there are fake "news stories" >>> everywhere to push agendas. It is very hard to sort through what's real and >>> what is fake, very hard. That is a huge problem. >>> >>> What you can't do is dismiss something because it doesn't meet up with >>> what is in your personal echo chamber. Look at everything and consider the >>> possibility, and consider the ramifications of the act. Look at who gets >>> hurt by it. >>> >>> Not doing your due diligence and picking a side is a threat to our >>> democracy and our country. >>> >>> Keep in mind that in this election, the popular vote was split in half. >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:58 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> the bulk of those are them doing it themselves, like the college tweet >>> threats that turned out the victim had sent herself from the library... she >>> justified it by saying it was ok because it brought about a conversation >>> there are three media reports today of women who had their hijabs ripped >>> off in walmarts and threats, but no surveillance >>> >>> its ultraliberal trash >>> >>> now the stains a week or two ago that put a noose around their own team >>> mates neck, real scumbags, but they arent pretending to be the victims and >>> arent hiding behind a constitution they would sooner wipe their backsides >>> with when its no longer a convenient shield >>> >>> best thing in this so far, that rawlings blake broad in baltimore who >>> provided a space for the "protesters" to destroy was ousted, hopefully she >>> moves to cali before they secede, >>> >>> regular liberals are neccessary, the offer balance to people like me, i >>> really should have clarified the ultra part in the beginning >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> They are no different than the kids spray painting racist messages in >>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing human >>>> mannequins off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks. >>>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing people >>>>> right now because the peaceful transition of power only applied to trump >>>>> supporters. These people are less than, they are takers that offer >>>>> nothing, >>>>> they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand control over >>>>> others >>>>> with no control over them as that would violate their rights. Im not led >>>>> by >>>>> the media at all, im led by reality, they are trashcans, there are tons of >>>>> them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off into the ocean, sad for >>>>> the few good folks out there, ill weep without tears for their loss, but >>>>> Ill get over it >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created is >>>>>> a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the other >>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage. >>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied. >>>>>> >>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are >>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them". >>>>>> >>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved >>>>>> while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other >>>>>> pen. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Guns - Conservative >>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions >>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal >>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative >>>>>>> Unions - Conservative >>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road >>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal >>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun >>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative >>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol >>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal >>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man... >>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative >>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto >>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal >>>>>>> Religion – Conservative >>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM >>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the >>>>>>> unreasonable idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe >>>>>>> spaces >>>>>>> because all sex is rape >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will >>>>>>>> realize that they just drank sand." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters- >>>>>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal >>>>>>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over >>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>> they exit though, that would be cheating >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds < >>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of >>>>>>>>> the country. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly >>>>>>>>> the south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing >>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive. >>>>>>>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. >>>>>>>>> Every >>>>>>>>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's a lot more to this, buy it would be decent for California >>>>>>>>> and terrible for the rest of the country. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, Walmart would go out of business mostly, so there's that I >>>>>>>>> guess. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 9:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> God that would be the greatest thing ever. get California out of >>>>>>>>>> here, make puerto rico or some other place a state, we dont even >>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>> update our flags. win win >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was watching a report that California protesters want to >>>>>>>>>>> secede from US!!! Wow I though Wacko Texans had the exclusive on >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> idea!! My grandson called Trumps victory Pyrrhic...interesting >>>>>>>>>>> for a 13 >>>>>>>>>>> year old. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 4:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < >>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was joking... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 3:28 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < >>>>>>>>>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cock's ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, I resemble that remark. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 8:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring up and will give me perspective.. .getting certification >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on another >>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera system family. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do know the only party that ever created camps and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interred Americans was the Democrats, right? And that Carter >>>>>>>>>>>>>> postponed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muslim immigration.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How soon people forget. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture terrorist >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muslims is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> racist? That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course >>>>>>>>>>>>>> since we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't teach history anymore without editing to make us >>>>>>>>>>>>>> angelic and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know... Not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they give a shit.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clothing in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheating on wife >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and children, is not an issue. What a crock of shit... I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> weep for our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> country... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigration. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> label the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> former group as racist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> going for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shortcut. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> white I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Islamophobia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as"code >>>>>>>>>>>>>> language" or whatever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Latino friends think about this? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswireless@gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Putin is happy. Wow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fears he played to, like someone we know back >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1930s and let's Make America White Again theme >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brought out >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote for him. Many of these rural voters want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the country >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge... I think the world skipped a beat. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right Wing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over >>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And make your own tamales.. They will be bland >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no flavor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> af...@ics-il.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/chann >>>>>>>>>>>>>> el/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> af@afmug.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Election Day >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess this proves sometimes people >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devil you don't know over the devil you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howard >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just watching the fear on those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's faces >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is priceless >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guy /sarcasm" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the media >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks are trying to backpedal and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> walkback >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the nonsense theyve pulled >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this year, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but theyre leaving the door open >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to not go >>>>>>>>>>>>>> too far if hillary still flips >>>>>>>>>>>>>> its so they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do another 180. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> best thing to watch of the night >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality sets in that they may >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have really >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fu**ed up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lewis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole "populist" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing...Bernie on the left, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> right. Is populist = = bad? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM Josh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reynolds < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody mentioned on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the news that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This wasn't... Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> running on a platform of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unifying >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...