The divide the politicians and media in this country have created is a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the other side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage. Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied. We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are told to. If you disagree you are "one of them". Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other pen. On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many. > > Guns - Conservative > Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions > Latino Immigration - Liberal > Muslim immigration - Conservative > Unions - Conservative > Environment – Middle of the road > Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal > Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun > Corporal punishment – Conservative > LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol > Welfare – Tough love liberal > Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man... > Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative > Taxes – Ditto > Healthcare – Liberal > Religion – Conservative > Military spending – wish I could get me some > > > > > > > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day > > sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the unreasonable > idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe spaces because all > sex is rape > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will realize >> that they just drank sand." >> >> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters- >> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >> >> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal filth, >> there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over before they exit >> though, that would be cheating >> >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of the >>> country. >>> >>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly the >>> south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing ones. >>> >>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive. >>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. Every >>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss. >>> >>> There's a lot more to this, buy it would be decent for California and >>> terrible for the rest of the country. >>> >>> Well, Walmart would go out of business mostly, so there's that I guess. >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2016 9:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> God that would be the greatest thing ever. get California out of here, >>>> make puerto rico or some other place a state, we dont even have to update >>>> our flags. win win >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Jaime Solorza < >>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was watching a report that California protesters want to secede from >>>>> US!!! Wow I though Wacko Texans had the exclusive on that idea!! My >>>>> grandson called Trumps victory Pyrrhic...interesting for a 13 year old. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 4:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was joking... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 3:28 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> . No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey, I resemble that remark. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 8:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you bring up >>>>>>>> and will give me perspective.. .getting certification on another camera >>>>>>>> system family. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred >>>>>>>> Americans was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim >>>>>>>> immigration.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How soon people forget. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture >>>>>>>> terrorist >>>>>>>> is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> racist? That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we >>>>>>>> don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and >>>>>>>> perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not >>>>>>>> that they give a shit.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in >>>>>>>> sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on >>>>>>>> wife >>>>>>>> and children, is not an issue. What a crock of shit... I weep for >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> country... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net >>>>>>>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal >>>>>>>> immigration. >>>>>>>> Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time >>>>>>>> discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the >>>>>>>> former group as racist. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a >>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>> and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> the shortcut. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >>>>>>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >>>>>>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com >>>>>>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM >>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I >>>>>>>> guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole >>>>>>>> Islamophobia >>>>>>>> deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code >>>>>>>> language" or whatever. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What >>>>>>>> do our >>>>>>>> Latino friends think about this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And Putin is happy. Wow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" >>>>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswireless@gmail. >>>>>>>> com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the >>>>>>>> 1930s and let's Make America White Again theme brought >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> vote for him. Many of these rural voters want the >>>>>>>> country >>>>>>>> to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will >>>>>>>> be the >>>>>>>> judge... I think the world skipped a beat. Right Wing >>>>>>>> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over >>>>>>>> themselves... >>>>>>>> And make your own tamales.. They will be bland with no >>>>>>>> flavor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" < >>>>>>>> af...@ics-il.net >>>>>>>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Huh? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions < >>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< >>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange < >>>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< >>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/chann >>>>>>>> el/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto: >>>>>>>> af@afmug.com>> >>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM >>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on >>>>>>>> Election Day >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" >>>>>>>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the >>>>>>>> devil you don't know over the devil you do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard >>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just watching the fear on those people's >>>>>>>> faces >>>>>>>> is priceless >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy >>>>>>>> /sarcasm" >>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media >>>>>>>> folks are trying to backpedal and >>>>>>>> walkback >>>>>>>> all the nonsense theyve pulled this >>>>>>>> year, >>>>>>>> but theyre leaving the door open to not >>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>> too far if hillary still flips its so >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> can do another 180. This is probably the >>>>>>>> best thing to watch of the night as the >>>>>>>> reality sets in that they may have >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> fu**ed up >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis >>>>>>>> Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole "populist" candidate >>>>>>>> thing...Bernie on the left, Trump >>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe >>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh >>>>>>>> Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Somebody mentioned on the news >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> "This wasn't... Trump wasn't >>>>>>>> running on a platform of >>>>>>>> unifying >>>>>>>> our country.. he wasn't a unity >>>>>>>> candidate. This is going to >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> very, very deep consequences >>>>>>>> across >>>>>>>> the board for our country." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 >>>>>>>> PM, >>>>>>>> That One Guy /sarcasm >>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:thatoneguysteve@gmail. >>>>>>>> com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > they skewed their models >>>>>>>> hoping >>>>>>>> the hive mind of the public >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> vote for >>>>>>>> > their candidate. they >>>>>>>> overvalued >>>>>>>> their influence and >>>>>>>> undervalued the >>>>>>>> > internets reach. >>>>>>>> > The GOP is dead, thats >>>>>>>> good, all >>>>>>>> the never trumpers days are >>>>>>>> numbers, >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> > constituents have spoken. >>>>>>>> America >>>>>>>> is a better place without it. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Remember, trump isnt a >>>>>>>> republican, hes more an >>>>>>>> independent >>>>>>>> than anything hes >>>>>>>> > so across the board on the >>>>>>>> major >>>>>>>> issues. He could have run an >>>>>>>> independent >>>>>>>> > race but would have just >>>>>>>> split >>>>>>>> the right. Even if she pulls a >>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>> minute >>>>>>>> > hail mary and wins it, this >>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>> win for the long term of our >>>>>>>> governance. >>>>>>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> just dont know it, 2020 is >>>>>>>> going to be a >>>>>>>> > hell of a race >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at >>>>>>>> 10:46 PM, >>>>>>>> Josh Reynolds < >>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> If a Democrat were to have >>>>>>>> won >>>>>>>> this Presidency, it would have >>>>>>>> been the >>>>>>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms >>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>> that happened beyond the >>>>>>>> middle of the >>>>>>>> >> century. The polling >>>>>>>> people are >>>>>>>> freaking out, as all of their >>>>>>>> modeling has >>>>>>>> >> been quite far off. This >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> been MUCH closer than any of >>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>> expected. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Recreational and medical >>>>>>>> marijuana is growing as well. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at >>>>>>>> 10:43 PM, >>>>>>>> Mathew Howard < >>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> They called Wisconsin for >>>>>>>> Trump.... A Republican hasn't >>>>>>>> won >>>>>>>> here since >>>>>>>> >>> 1984 >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, >>>>>>>> "Josh >>>>>>>> Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> Dow futures down near 700 >>>>>>>> points. GOP commentator on the >>>>>>>> tv is >>>>>>>> saying >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...
