I don't think you're wrong, but you probably should go home to your Tecate anyway. As far as I can understand it, the chipset can detect the difference because the two signals are out of phase... so yeah, I think it would work.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I understand how XPD and vector ray summation works.. How cross polarity > and isolation work, how slant 45 + - works... I used 45 slants back in > 90s... They didn't have dual slants until much later as mobile cellular > grew and antenna size/tower space became issue... Diversity was used with > two receive antennas to improve performance and reduce dropped calls... > These required x wavelengths of separation. So now newer sites have dual > slant antennas and many old site's are getting antenna replacements... The > antennas are smaller but better performance. I don't get how chip set > detects difference... I can take a MIMO epmp or rocket and connect two > dishes in vertical polarity and space them apart and link would work. I > think the V and H labels are just to insure we connect antennas > correctly... Or am I wrong and need to go home to my Tecate? > > On Nov 22, 2016 3:49 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ...I'm not saying I understand it by the way. Just saying I have no >> reason to disbelieve it. If in doubt, turn your SM 45 degrees and see if >> your signal changes. >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: 11/22/2016 5:45:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2.4 antenna options >> >> >> So how does the connector distinguish between these antennas and relay >> information to chip set to "phase differently"? I am assuming these >> antennas are passive with no smarts. >> >> On Nov 22, 2016 3:42 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >> >> Phase. Yes, it's built into the chipset. 450 does it too. At least the >> 3.65. >> >> >> On 11/22/2016 4:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >>> I think so... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, November 22, >>> 2016 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2.4 antenna >>> options >>> So if you were to use like a v/h UBNT antenna instead of the Dual Slant >>> antenna, They both should work? Wondering what the 3x price difference >>> between antennas gains you. >>> >>> On 11/22/2016 4:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>>> Supposedly it makes up for the loss by using the desired signal >>>> component from both antennas. >>>> I remember reading the original white paper, and I remember thinking I >>>> understood it for about 5 minutes or so. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:24 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2.4 antenna options >>>> >>>> So you have a Dual slant AP and a V/H SM? Isn't that just losing signal >>>> for no reason? >>>> >>>> On 11/22/2016 4:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>> >>>>> They've apparently got some electronic magic that can take the >>>>> received signal on V/H and calculate what the transmitted dual slant >>>>> signal >>>>> was. It's been explained here, but I don't remember the details. They >>>>> assert that you can mix and match safely. In fact they started out >>>>> selling >>>>> slant pol sector antennas and V+H SM's, so they are/were confident enough >>>>> in this to make it the "default" setup. >>>>> >>>>> It's a feature of their 802.11n chipset, so the computation is done in >>>>> hardware. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> >>>>> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Sent: 11/22/2016 5:14:04 PM >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP 2.4 antenna options >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking at the Cambium 2.4 antenna C024900D004A, and it lists it >>>>>> as being DualSlant +/-45 degrees. Does this mean that the Force 200 2.4 >>>>>> radios are also Dual Slant to talk to this antenna? I didn't find >>>>>> anything >>>>>> on the Force200 spec sheet talking about slant. If you use a V/H Antenna >>>>>> as the AP, can you not use the Force 200 as the SM? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>
