Oh really … that’s interesting.  For us it wouldn’t make sense but for a lot of 
WISP’s it would actually make complete sense….

thanks for that clarification …

> On Nov 23, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> wrote:
> 
> They actually do have a per-subscriber model now with their virtualized 
> product. I'm working with Procera on some configurations for this for the 
> WISP market right. Feel free to reach out to me directly if anyone is 
> interested in learning more.
> 
> On 11/23/2016 12:52 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
>> Procera isn’t licensed per user .. it’s licensed based on throughput and 
>> features
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, I think Procera and Sandvine both have a per user cost (maybe a couple 
>>> dollars per user) and Procera has a cost for purchasing upfront. My box 
>>> which can do a gig of traffic cost $18,000 with the first year of signature 
>>> updates and it is like $2500 annually after that.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Wireless Administrator <wirel...@htn.net 
>>> <mailto:wirel...@htn.net>> wrote:
>>> Kurt,
>>> 
>>> We use PPPoE/Radius to set basic Queues on the Access Servers but want to 
>>> do shaping at an application level.  Ntop reports are showing an increasing 
>>> number of things getting out of control.  Windows updates %#@?! for one.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Traffic Shaping Appliance
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Are you are just looking to shape general traffic to a client (like give 
>>> someone a 1.5Mbps plan) then you could use Mikrotik and simple queues which 
>>> is very in-expensive. If you want to do some shaping on an application like 
>>> only streaming or Windows Updates and stuff like that then that's where 
>>> things start to get expensive. I am using the Procera myself for that and 
>>> although I havn't tried any of the other brands you mention I am very happy 
>>> with the Procera.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Wireless Administrator <wirel...@htn.net 
>>> <mailto:wirel...@htn.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We’re in the market for a traffic shaping appliance and have had a look at 
>>> Procera so far.  I have a list of vendors/products a have assembled over 
>>> time that I was going to look into:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Saisei
>>> 
>>> NetEqualizer
>>> 
>>> Packeteer (Bluecoat)
>>> 
>>> NetEnforcer (Allot)
>>> 
>>> Network Composer (Cymphonix)
>>> 
>>> Exinda
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Anyone care to share experiences on this subject?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Steve B.
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
> 
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