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----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 8:54:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen It was my understanding that increased nuclear power production was supposed to be what brought the price of hydrogen down to the point where it was a viable mainstream fuel source. On Sunday, December 4, 2016, Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: Almost, most hydrogen is produced in the break down of the rod cladding under excessive heat. Not a good thing... When it happens it means that something in your process is not going to spec.. On 12/4/16 12:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: <blockquote> IIRC, isn't hydrogen a byproduct of the nuclear generation process? Can't they capture that? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions < http://www.ics-il.com/ > < https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >< https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >< https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions >< https://twitter.com/ICSIL > Midwest Internet Exchange < http://www.midwest-ix.com/ > < https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix >< https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange >< https://twitter.com/mdwestix > The Brothers WISP < http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ > < https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp > < https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: * af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 4, 2016 2:15:30 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen tarts or farts? If you can reform the methane into hydrogen for the fuel cell it would work, but why not just use an internal combustion engine retrofitted for CNG. I am guessing that electricity to hydrogen back to electricity is cycle they are trying to promote here. Personally I prefer solar to electricity to an electric car, by passing the whole hydrogen thing. Not sure storing energy in hydrogen is all the beneficial of the hydrogen was originally derived from coal and natural gas. Now if it was nuclear – electricity – hydrogen – electricity, then we are cookin’ with gas. *From:* Lewis Bergman *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 1:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen Why not just run the motor home off of methane? There are lots of old darts driving them right? On Sun, Dec 4, 2016, 2:09 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: But they use the roads so gently... -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen That is already a big issue in CA. There are no simple solutions to this dilemma. There is no question that electric cars use the roads. The fact that they escape paying for the roads is problem we're going to have to solve some way. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/4/2016 11:05 AM, Brian Webster wrote: > Imagine the motorhome also having a solar powered hydrogen fuel cell to > either make the hydrogen or have enough power to recharge the batteries. > Depending on how far you can go just on batteries and how long it takes to > recharge on solar, you could pace your travels to be darn near free > driving. > > The one thing that governments are starting to struggle with now is the > road taxes that are technically owed. Right now they collect it as the > gas/fuel pump for every gallon of fuel you purchase. I know in NY state > technically if you own an electric car you are supposed to calculate your > mileage driven on electric and then enter that on your tax return to > calculate how much you owe in road taxes that you did not pay at a gas > pump. I am sure that is honestly reported by citizens just like they are > supposed to report all of their on line purchases that did not have NY > state sales taxes collected....... > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com < http://www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com < http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:39 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen > > This is what I want for a motor home, along with autopilot a la tesla... > The easiest way to see north america as possible... > > On 12/02/2016 03:35 PM, George Skorup wrote: >> I would really like to see passenger vehicles and small trucks go >> hybrid hydrogen/electric. Even better would be an any-fuel hybrid >> electric. >> Hydrogen, propane or NG and a regular gas tank for reserve. Either >> that, or a gas turbine like an M1 Abrams that can burn anything, but >> it would obviously need to get better fuel economy than 5 gallons per >> mile. >> >> On 12/2/2016 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> Nikola Motor Company reveals hydrogen fuel cell truck with range of >>> 1,200 miles - >>> http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-cell-truck >>> / >>> </blockquote>
