But if you are going to light it, may as well mix the O and the H but a nice
pop.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
with the electrolysis one lead made o2 one made h, had to keep the seperate or
your experiment would be nullified
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
If you strip back some lamp cord, plug it into the wall, drop it into water
it makes browns gas much quicker. Mix of H and O that is nice and explosive.
More fun than using DC electrolysis. But if you used a model train transformer
you probably made browns too.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
I made hydrogen with electrolysis specifically so I could have flammable gas
to play with. Yes very slow. I used the transformer from my model trains as
the power source, and I was ok with just setting it up and walking away while
it slowly filled a balloon with gas. The biggest annoyance for me was not the
speed of the process, but the fact that my electrodes kept corroding away. They
were made of balls of tin foil....If I was cleverer back then I would have
yanked a big bolt out of the garage and used that instead.
I sure hope I can get my kids to play with stuff like this. Even if the only
incentive is to make stuff go boom, I think a few singed eyebrows are worth the
learning.
------ Original Message ------
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 12/5/2016 10:57:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
no, chuck, drain cleaner and foil is something you put in pop bottles and
throw
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:32 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Quick way to make hydrogen is to put some foil in a water solution of
sodium hydroxide (lye) drain cleaner. Cheap, easy, makes lots of gas, fizzes
and gets hot too.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 8:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
In Jr high I needed hydrogen for a plant experiment I was doing, the
electrolysis method was too slow so I used zinc oxide from non alkaline AA
batteries. Is zinc still a thing in battery production? That could be a good
secondary market for battery recyclers. I used hydrocloric acid because i had
it, but sulfuric would have been more efficient, so the sla recycling could be
combined with the other battery recycling to generate hydrogen. my method
created a shit ton of toxic byproduct I had to disappear, but i assume that
could be addressed at scale
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting perspective
I can see the cord cutting component of consumer demand putting it on
the purchased service from a provider, but I just cant wrap my head around
government rebates on "green" tech being a component of pure capitalism since
it demands that unwilling participants kick into the kitty for individuals to
gain benefits, that sounds more socialist, even if it only benefits those
wealthy enough to buy green tech
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:
"just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest,
efficientest, its always on somebody elses back"
- capitalism
Although you could replace from cord cutting to efficientest with
"everything" and it would be "samesies"
On Dec 4, 2016 5:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
capitalism has no mandate to offset others costs through forcible
taxation that im aware. unless we are talking about the exchange of
responsibilities via voluntary taxation of mileage in exchange for access to
group resources like federal taxes. still not sure id call that strict
capitalism
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
You realize what you just described in the strictest sense is
called capitalism, right?
On Dec 4, 2016 3:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest,
efficientest, its always on somebody elses back. if its regulation you want,
its regulation you get...to get any, even a single penny, subsidy for "green
tech, youre required to come to the dmv twice a yer for an odometer reading and
tax form for you to pay your taxes. your vehicle has a huge environmental
liability with the batteries (this should make the climate changers cream) so
if you dont register a sale of the electric car, and dont get your odometer
read, then you just get an annual tax bill for 250,000 miles
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Brian Webster
<i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
Imagine the motorhome also having a solar powered hydrogen
fuel cell to either make the hydrogen or have enough power to recharge the
batteries. Depending on how far you can go just on batteries and how long it
takes to recharge on solar, you could pace your travels to be darn near free
driving.
The one thing that governments are starting to struggle with
now is the road taxes that are technically owed. Right now they collect it as
the gas/fuel pump for every gallon of fuel you purchase. I know in NY state
technically if you own an electric car you are supposed to calculate your
mileage driven on electric and then enter that on your tax return to calculate
how much you owe in road taxes that you did not pay at a gas pump. I am sure
that is honestly reported by citizens just like they are supposed to report all
of their on line purchases that did not have NY state sales taxes
collected.......
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Andrews
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
This is what I want for a motor home, along with autopilot a
la tesla...
The easiest way to see north america as possible...
On 12/02/2016 03:35 PM, George Skorup wrote:
> I would really like to see passenger vehicles and small
trucks go
> hybrid hydrogen/electric. Even better would be an any-fuel
hybrid electric.
> Hydrogen, propane or NG and a regular gas tank for reserve.
Either
> that, or a gas turbine like an M1 Abrams that can burn
anything, but
> it would obviously need to get better fuel economy than 5
gallons per mile.
>
> On 12/2/2016 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Nikola Motor Company reveals hydrogen fuel cell truck with
range of
>> 1,200 miles -
>>
http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-cell-truck
>> /
>>
>
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