I made hydrogen with electrolysis specifically so I could have flammable
gas to play with. Yes very slow. I used the transformer from my model
trains as the power source, and I was ok with just setting it up and
walking away while it slowly filled a balloon with gas. The biggest
annoyance for me was not the speed of the process, but the fact that my
electrodes kept corroding away. They were made of balls of tin
foil....If I was cleverer back then I would have yanked a big bolt out
of the garage and used that instead.
I sure hope I can get my kids to play with stuff like this. Even if the
only incentive is to make stuff go boom, I think a few singed eyebrows
are worth the learning.
------ Original Message ------
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 12/5/2016 10:57:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
no, chuck, drain cleaner and foil is something you put in pop bottles
and throw
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:32 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Quick way to make hydrogen is to put some foil in a water solution of
sodium hydroxide (lye) drain cleaner. Cheap, easy, makes lots of gas,
fizzes and gets hot too.
From:That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 8:12 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
In Jr high I needed hydrogen for a plant experiment I was doing, the
electrolysis method was too slow so I used zinc oxide from non
alkaline AA batteries. Is zinc still a thing in battery production?
That could be a good secondary market for battery recyclers. I used
hydrocloric acid because i had it, but sulfuric would have been more
efficient, so the sla recycling could be combined with the other
battery recycling to generate hydrogen. my method created a shit ton
of toxic byproduct I had to disappear, but i assume that could be
addressed at scale
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting perspective
I can see the cord cutting component of consumer demand putting it on
the purchased service from a provider, but I just cant wrap my head
around government rebates on "green" tech being a component of pure
capitalism since it demands that unwilling participants kick into the
kitty for individuals to gain benefits, that sounds more socialist,
even if it only benefits those wealthy enough to buy green tech
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:
"just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest,
efficientest, its always on somebody elses back"
- capitalism
Although you could replace from cord cutting to efficientest with
"everything" and it would be "samesies"
On Dec 4, 2016 5:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
capitalism has no mandate to offset others costs through forcible
taxation that im aware. unless we are talking about the exchange of
responsibilities via voluntary taxation of mileage in exchange for
access to group resources like federal taxes. still not sure id
call that strict capitalism
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
You realize what you just described in the strictest sense is
called capitalism, right?
On Dec 4, 2016 3:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest,
efficientest, its always on somebody elses back. if its
regulation you want, its regulation you get...to get any, even a
single penny, subsidy for "green tech, youre required to come to
the dmv twice a yer for an odometer reading and tax form for you
to pay your taxes. your vehicle has a huge environmental
liability with the batteries (this should make the climate
changers cream) so if you dont register a sale of the electric
car, and dont get your odometer read, then you just get an annual
tax bill for 250,000 miles
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Brian Webster
<i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
Imagine the motorhome also having a solar powered hydrogen fuel
cell to either make the hydrogen or have enough power to
recharge the batteries. Depending on how far you can go just on
batteries and how long it takes to recharge on solar, you could
pace your travels to be darn near free driving.
The one thing that governments are starting to struggle with now
is the road taxes that are technically owed. Right now they
collect it as the gas/fuel pump for every gallon of fuel you
purchase. I know in NY state technically if you own an electric
car you are supposed to calculate your mileage driven on
electric and then enter that on your tax return to calculate how
much you owe in road taxes that you did not pay at a gas pump. I
am sure that is honestly reported by citizens just like they are
supposed to report all of their on line purchases that did not
have NY state sales taxes collected.......
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Andrews
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
This is what I want for a motor home, along with autopilot a la
tesla...
The easiest way to see north america as possible...
On 12/02/2016 03:35 PM, George Skorup wrote:
> I would really like to see passenger vehicles and small trucks
go
> hybrid hydrogen/electric. Even better would be an any-fuel
hybrid electric.
> Hydrogen, propane or NG and a regular gas tank for reserve.
Either
> that, or a gas turbine like an M1 Abrams that can burn
anything, but
> it would obviously need to get better fuel economy than 5
gallons per mile.
>
> On 12/2/2016 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Nikola Motor Company reveals hydrogen fuel cell truck with
range of
>> 1,200 miles -
>>
http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-cell-truck
>> /
>>
>
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